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A Statement from Shanley of Model View Culture

13 points by jarcane 12y ago

zimpenfish 12y ago
I think you can probably co-opt the "the comments on every article about feminism justify feminism" quote into "the reaction to criticising (an|a toxic) online community justifies the criticism". And this is why we don't have nice things.
fredfoobar42 12y ago
Whatever your opinion on Shanley Kane, nobody deserves this kind of treatment. It amazes me, continually, that the same sort of people who are quick to defend the "meritocracy" of technology are also the sort who are equally quick to violently silence anyone who disagrees.
nailer 12y ago
This is the same person who just doxxed a journalist who dared write about her negatively [1], and made up a story (quite similar to the current one) about another journalist who wrote about her positively [2]. This person is being assessed for their actions: changing from a far-right racist to a far-left racist/sexist. Their pretending to be a victim was fairly predictable. 1. https://twitter.com/shanley/status/556221414408069123/ https://twitter.com/shanley/status/556221414408069123/ 2. https://medium.com/matter/speaking-up-every-fucking-time-a61a24aa7629 https://medium.com/matter/speaking-up-every-fucking-time-a61... More on this person: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/12/10/the-madness-of-queen-shanley/ http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/12/10/the-madness-of-qu... Edit: from the actual article being posted: "misandry forever". For real. Elisabeth Spiers (the sympathetic journalist attacked by this person last time) also has a fairly insightful article on the recent revelations: http://www.elizabethspiers.com/on-the-matter-of-weev-vs-kane/ http://www.elizabethspiers.com/on-the-matter-of-weev-vs-kane...
- GFK_of_xmaspast 12y ago
  Did you seriously just waltz in here and drop a link to brietbart.com.
  - nailer 12y ago
    You're free to read the Elizabeth Spiers article or the person's own tweets, but generally on HN we respond to the point rather than the source. You can find plenty of linked evidence on this person's own twitter account, including such gems as https://twitter.com/shanley/status/487669792862511104 https://twitter.com/shanley/status/487669792862511104. This person is a well known online troll and their work 'towards' diversity in technology is a mechanism for gaining attention and counterproductive to their stated cause.
    - zimpenfish 12y ago
      I don't quite get the "gemness" of that one - Tinder demonstrated that theory quite effectively not that long ago, did it not?
      - nailer 12y ago
        Making broad statements about others based on race and gender is ignorant.
        zimpenfish 12y ago
        I don't think -many- people (outside of the obvious communities) would take umbrage with "white males are often dicks to women in business situations" given the preponderance of evidence.
        nailer 12y ago
        Sure if that's what was said, but in this case, it wasn't.
        zimpenfish 12y ago
        In that case I've entirely missed what was said because the words I read just seem to be about male cofounders potentially being dicks. I definitely cannot see Milo's "he'll rape you one day" interpretation but I suspect that's largely because he's made that up.
frogbert 12y ago
Considering the source is a sociopath engaging in equal opportunity hatred towards whatever is weakest in front of her for her own advancement through social manipulation rather than merit, I'm going to need some police reports rather than her words to believe this.

13 points by jarcane 12y ago

I think you can probably co-opt the "the comments on every article about feminism justify feminism" quote into "the reaction to criticising (an|a toxic) online community justifies the criticism". And this is why we don't have nice things.

fredfoobar42 12y ago

Whatever your opinion on Shanley Kane, nobody deserves this kind of treatment. It amazes me, continually, that the same sort of people who are quick to defend the "meritocracy" of technology are also the sort who are equally quick to violently silence anyone who disagrees.

nailer 12y ago

This is the same person who just doxxed a journalist who dared write about her negatively [1], and made up a story (quite similar to the current one) about another journalist who wrote about her positively [2]. This person is being assessed for their actions: changing from a far-right racist to a far-left racist/sexist. Their pretending to be a victim was fairly predictable. 1. https://twitter.com/shanley/status/556221414408069123/ https://twitter.com/shanley/status/556221414408069123/ 2. https://medium.com/matter/speaking-up-every-fucking-time-a61a24aa7629 https://medium.com/matter/speaking-up-every-fucking-time-a61... More on this person: http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/12/10/the-madness-of-queen-shanley/ http://www.breitbart.com/london/2014/12/10/the-madness-of-qu... Edit: from the actual article being posted: "misandry forever". For real. Elisabeth Spiers (the sympathetic journalist attacked by this person last time) also has a fairly insightful article on the recent revelations: http://www.elizabethspiers.com/on-the-matter-of-weev-vs-kane/ http://www.elizabethspiers.com/on-the-matter-of-weev-vs-kane...

GFK_of_xmaspast 12y ago
Did you seriously just waltz in here and drop a link to brietbart.com.
- nailer 12y ago
  You're free to read the Elizabeth Spiers article or the person's own tweets, but generally on HN we respond to the point rather than the source. You can find plenty of linked evidence on this person's own twitter account, including such gems as https://twitter.com/shanley/status/487669792862511104 https://twitter.com/shanley/status/487669792862511104. This person is a well known online troll and their work 'towards' diversity in technology is a mechanism for gaining attention and counterproductive to their stated cause.
  - zimpenfish 12y ago
    I don't quite get the "gemness" of that one - Tinder demonstrated that theory quite effectively not that long ago, did it not?
    - nailer 12y ago
      Making broad statements about others based on race and gender is ignorant.
      - zimpenfish 12y ago
        I don't think -many- people (outside of the obvious communities) would take umbrage with "white males are often dicks to women in business situations" given the preponderance of evidence.
        nailer 12y ago
        Sure if that's what was said, but in this case, it wasn't.
        zimpenfish 12y ago
        In that case I've entirely missed what was said because the words I read just seem to be about male cofounders potentially being dicks. I definitely cannot see Milo's "he'll rape you one day" interpretation but I suspect that's largely because he's made that up.

frogbert 12y ago

Considering the source is a sociopath engaging in equal opportunity hatred towards whatever is weakest in front of her for her own advancement through social manipulation rather than merit, I'm going to need some police reports rather than her words to believe this.