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I'm currently working on a web tracker, and it turns out that it is /much/ easier said than done. You have all the problems of making a web app, coupled with al

I'm currently working on a web tracker, and it turns out that it is /much/ easier said than done. You have all the problems of making a web app, coupled with all the problems of making a tracker (of which there are many). Plus, you seem to be suggesting a one-stop allgear tracker, which makes it ten times worse, since one doesn't seem to exist even for desktop yet. And, a shoutout to, IMO, one of the coolest quasi-demoscene places on the internet, http://battleofthebits.org http://battleofthebits.org. Without them, I would never have gotten my feet off the ground with coding. And, if anyone's curious (it's still in its incredibly early stages), https://github.com/ianremsen/lunartracker https://github.com/ianremsen/lunartracker

derefr 12y ago
Admittedly, it'd be easier to just render all the audio to MP3, stick it on S3 (6000 chips = ~70GB of music?), and create a tracker interface that actually just streams those MP3s. Costly on bandwidth, though.
- vidarh 12y ago
  As a showcase for the MP3 approach, for C64 music there's this [1] that has more than 50000 tracks recorded from actual SID chips (because the emulators are still not perfect, apparently...). That includes a lot of pointless stuff, though (they've played back every track available, which includes game over jingles and sound effects in many cases). [1 http://www.6581-8580.com/ http://www.6581-8580.com/
  - exDM69 12y ago
    > (because the emulators are still not perfect, apparently...) The SID chips contain analog synthesizers that have a very distinct tone which is difficult to emulate in digital signal processing. There was also a lot of variance in the semiconductor manufacturing process, so no two SID chips sound exactly the same. The SID emulators are actually very different from your typical audio synths, they don't run at the "native" output sample rate (ie. 44.1 or 48kHz) but do their processing at a much higher (closer to MHz) sample rate to better emulate some of the analog phenomena going on in the chip. So, no, SID chips are still not "perfect" and will probably never be :)
  - Flow 12y ago
    The SID chip can do surprisingly fat bass sounds. http://208.70.31.85/OAKVALLEY/soasc/soasc_mp3/MUSICIANS/D/Dunn_Jonathan/RoboCop_T02.sid_MOS6581R4.mp3 http://208.70.31.85/OAKVALLEY/soasc/soasc_mp3/MUSICIANS/D/Du... I've been a huge fan of this chip since I was a kid :)
- bane 12y ago
  There's way more than 6,000 chiptunes ;) Here's a site with just Amiga music and it has just over a quarter million songs. http://www.paula8364.com/ http://www.paula8364.com/
  - derefr 12y ago
    Sure; I was going by the number of chips listed in this particular site's archive.
lastontheboat 12y ago
Mmm, pretty. I had a similar project a couple years ago attempting to replicate OpenMPT's interface in the web browser: https://github.com/jdm/domtracker https://github.com/jdm/domtracker and http://www.joshmatthews.net/domtracker/; http://www.joshmatthews.net/domtracker/; it played sounds in earlier versions of FF and Chromium but I haven't upgraded it to keep abreast of newer WebAudio implementations.

derefr 12y ago

Admittedly, it'd be easier to just render all the audio to MP3, stick it on S3 (6000 chips = ~70GB of music?), and create a tracker interface that actually just streams those MP3s. Costly on bandwidth, though.

vidarh 12y ago
As a showcase for the MP3 approach, for C64 music there's this [1] that has more than 50000 tracks recorded from actual SID chips (because the emulators are still not perfect, apparently...). That includes a lot of pointless stuff, though (they've played back every track available, which includes game over jingles and sound effects in many cases). [1 http://www.6581-8580.com/ http://www.6581-8580.com/
- exDM69 12y ago
  > (because the emulators are still not perfect, apparently...) The SID chips contain analog synthesizers that have a very distinct tone which is difficult to emulate in digital signal processing. There was also a lot of variance in the semiconductor manufacturing process, so no two SID chips sound exactly the same. The SID emulators are actually very different from your typical audio synths, they don't run at the "native" output sample rate (ie. 44.1 or 48kHz) but do their processing at a much higher (closer to MHz) sample rate to better emulate some of the analog phenomena going on in the chip. So, no, SID chips are still not "perfect" and will probably never be :)
- Flow 12y ago
  The SID chip can do surprisingly fat bass sounds. http://208.70.31.85/OAKVALLEY/soasc/soasc_mp3/MUSICIANS/D/Dunn_Jonathan/RoboCop_T02.sid_MOS6581R4.mp3 http://208.70.31.85/OAKVALLEY/soasc/soasc_mp3/MUSICIANS/D/Du... I've been a huge fan of this chip since I was a kid :)
bane 12y ago
There's way more than 6,000 chiptunes ;) Here's a site with just Amiga music and it has just over a quarter million songs. http://www.paula8364.com/ http://www.paula8364.com/
- derefr 12y ago
  Sure; I was going by the number of chips listed in this particular site's archive.

lastontheboat 12y ago

Mmm, pretty. I had a similar project a couple years ago attempting to replicate OpenMPT's interface in the web browser: https://github.com/jdm/domtracker https://github.com/jdm/domtracker and http://www.joshmatthews.net/domtracker/; http://www.joshmatthews.net/domtracker/; it played sounds in earlier versions of FF and Chromium but I haven't upgraded it to keep abreast of newer WebAudio implementations.