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College Students Prefer Reading Print Books to E-Readers

122 points by Thevet 12y ago

alexland 12y ago
I feel the complete opposite for all of the college textbooks I've used (although all of my textbooks are filled with problems rather than readings). Using a laptop or e-reader to read textbooks is awesome for a couple of reasons. First off, having multiple textbooks doesn't weigh anything, and I can carry them around at all times. Secondly, when doing assignments and the like, I can bookmark the answer section in the back, and flip back and forth between questions and answers arguably faster than I could with a paper book. Finally, the best part of electronic books is the ability to search through it. Every definition in the book is a Ctrl+F away. So maybe reading books electronically isn't as great when you're doing a lot of actual reading, but in my experience using more math/science textbooks, electronic wins out every time.
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- nickthemagicman 12y ago
  This. And i use ctrl c. Boom two copies of the text book one for the problem page, one for referencing.
- ecspike 12y ago
  So true about math/science books. I think they work for a lot of fiction reading too, you just have to set adaptive brightness or change to a darker background to avoid strain.
- xur17 12y ago
  I agree textbooks on a laptop are really great - no heavy books, and Ctrl+F works really well. I can't imagine they work very well on e-readers though - it seems like flipping through pages would be slow, and ctrl+f would be pretty difficult without a real keyboard.
  - wyldfire 12y ago
    The original e-ink Kindle had a real keyboard. It's a little less awkward than the e-ink Nook which used (uses?) a small LCD touchscreen keyboard.
  - diyorgasms 12y ago
    Not exactly an e-reader, but I read my textbooks on a Nexus 7 most of the time. I use Moon+ Reader, and the search and bookmarking features are phenomenal. When I am on a desktop or notebook computer, I use either Evince or Preview, depending on the platform I am using. I would say Moon+ provides an experience equal to that of Evince, and definitely better than Preview, at least for the purposes of being an ebook reader.
- lqdc13 12y ago
  You need to have multiple copies open at the same time if you want to refer to different parts at the same time. Ctrl+f is great, but you end up losing the part of the book you were at before you started searching. So basically I needed to have 4 copies open at a time. 3 for different parts of the book I needed to refer to and one for searching. This made the actual size of the text way too small on a laptop screen. Some of the problems could probably be solved with bookmarking software, but then you have to remember where each bookmark is instead of glancing at it.
  - spike021 12y ago
    Not necessarily. I use the PDF-reader on OSX called Skim and it lets me bookmark the current page I'm on. Then I can just keep clicking the bookmark menu item and switching to the page I need. Only one copy. Each bookmark can have a label. Not too bad.
    - dubya 12y ago
      Potentially even more useful is the split view. Unfortunately, it only does horizontal splits, and only two at a time. I need to search again sometime for a reader with vertical splits, as horizontal splits are mostly useless on a little 11" screen. Though Skim is open source...
    - alexland 12y ago
      I also use Skim, it works really well. A pretty cool feature is the back and forward buttons, that hold your page if you skip through large chunks. For example, if I use the table of contents (Cmd + Shift + T) to go to the answers section, I can press back to get back to the question I was on. Then forward brings me to the answers once again. That's basically my textbook workflow 90% of the time.
      - spike021 12y ago
        That works too! I really like using Skim. Without it, I would definitely not like reading/doing problems from my textbooks.
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- vlunkr 12y ago
  My thoughts exactly. Ctrl+F was priceless for classes I didn't care about and just wanted to quickly find the quiz answers or whatever.
taylorwc 12y ago
>found a near-universal preference for print, especially for serious reading Is this really any surprise for "serious reading"? Reading a textbook, especially one with lots of graphs, charts, figures, etc., is miserable on an e-reader. I suppose I always assumed that pleasure reading was the most popular use case for an e-reader. Maybe I'm way off. EDIT: while muddling through this in my brain, I realized that I've been mentally defining e-readers as E-Ink readers.
joshuapants 12y ago
> There are two big issues. The first was they say they get distracted, pulled away to other things. The second had to do with eye strain and headaches and physical discomfort. These problems may be common with laptops and tablets, but e-readers fix that. You can't get distracted if the device is only capable of reading books, and e-ink screens offer far less eyestrain than typical LCDs. Personally, I would say that I prefer reading print books over ebooks, but I vastly prefer reading ebooks on an e-reader over reading them on a different device. I also have almost no shelf space, so being able to store hundreds of books on my device is a great benefit. I get print copies of my favorite books, but in general I use the e-reader for everything else. I have no experience with e-textbooks, however.
- higherpurpose 12y ago
  This is what I don't like about this headline and study. It seems to conflate pretty easily iPads/tablets and "ereaders", because it doesn't look like they only tested e-ink ereaders, but "ebook readers", and many use iPads for reading ebooks. That's how they got the eye strain.
saosebastiao 12y ago
I just had a conversation about this last friday with a coworker. We both basically came to the conclusion that the only e-books that work are prose-oriented, not learning-oriented. With your average novel, you only read from beginning to end, and you only read words. With a textbook, you not only read words, but you read diagrams and figures. You also skip around...you follow footnotes, references, and you also might follow a curricula that was not defined by the author. You will often refer to two or three different hotspots while studying a single chapter...for example, while working on practice problems, you will flip back and forth between the practice problems, the chapter intro, the context for that problem, and possibly a chapter recap. This user-adoption gap is not one of the underlying medium, but rather of the user interface. Flipping pages one at a time is not sufficient.
- thrownaway2424 12y ago
  Try reading Infinite Jest on a Kindle. Half of the book is in the end notes.
  - zokier 12y ago
    I made the mistake of buying Pale Fire on Kindle. It is basically unreadable due it's structure.
  - tmurray 12y ago
    I actually read IJ on a Kindle and found it significantly easier for the most part than reading it in print because of links to endnotes, which removed the requirement to keep two sets of bookmarks (if you haven't read it, some endnotes in IJ are a sentence are two, some are 40 pages). There were some occasional issues with going back to the main text (IIRC the back button's stack wasn't saved across sleep), but overall it was much better for me. But no, I'd never read a textbook on a Kindle. Can't flip around.
    - thrownaway2424 12y ago
      I thought the loss of the back button during sleep was infuriating.
mostly_harmless 12y ago
ereaders are a really nice platform but the current problem with ereaders is the lack of tactile feedback, and the difficulty of random seeking. The first issue is mostly just preference. being able to see how far finished a book you are and the satisfaction of flipping a page is nice, but has little utility. The second issue is a bigger problem. anything but a linear read from start to finish is difficult on an ereader. the only reasonable use case of ereaders in the current form is reading a novel. anything with a more complicated interaction, such as textbooks where you need to jump back and forth for reference to equations; choose your own adventure books; or books with footnotes or endnotes are severely limited. I'm not sure if either of these issues can be fully solved, but they will definitely need to be mitigated in the UI for ereaders to have a more sustainable demand.
programminggeek 12y ago
College books on e-readers aren't amazing yet. This isn't very surprising at all. Novel style ebooks are a great fit for the Kindle reader. Technical books are not so great. I don't think there is a big push to get technical book reading experiences to be super amazing, even with the iPad being so popular.
- TillE 12y ago
  A 10" iPad is still too small to legibly render a typical textbook. It requires a lot of scrolling and/or zooming. If the rumors of a 12-13" iPad turn out to be true, this will certainly be one of its primary uses. I'd buy one just for reading my large collection of PDFs for tabletop RPGs.
withdavidli 12y ago
Love digital text. The find command saves me so much time than flipping and skimming. Books with a lot of charts and graphs, it's a hassle even in print. Figuring out the placement so relavent text and visuals can be displayed on a single page would be better, and it would be easier to experiment with the format digitally.
ecspike 12y ago
"In the United States, e-books are less expensive. Students will say, “I’d like to have the print version, but the electronic version is so much less expensive.” But if you buy a book used, the publisher and the author are not getting any money but they are getting another reader and they’re not cutting another tree. And the cost is less. And if it goes to a third generation the cost is really less." That's a nice sentiment but there were a bunch of books in college that purposely changed portions from year to year to kill to resale market. Some profs were cool and researched what sections/questions would be so that you could use one of the 3 editions available but others didn't care. I was happy to get all some of my books in digital form in grad school. Preparing for finals was so much easier.
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walterbell 12y ago
We need a comparison of print, pdf and epub. PDF can retain print layout and typography, which makes a big difference in aesthetics. EPUB still needs work from device makers, to honor embedded fonts. When the flexible eink screen from the 13" Sony Digital Paper goes mainstream with a bluetooth keyboard and Android clones, students can have access to a large yet lightweight device for reading PDF+epub, handwritten annotations and typed notes. http://goodereader.com/blog/electronic-readers/sony-digital-paper-review http://goodereader.com/blog/electronic-readers/sony-digital-...
- thrownaway2424 12y ago
  That looks Pretty Cool(tm) for dorks, but what's the real advantage over an actual piece of paper? Other than infinite content-to-weight ratio I don't really see the justification for the price tag. It's inconvenient, much heavier than single piece of paper or small magazines, journals, and printed out papers, needs a special pencil, requires charging. I used to think that something like a Kindle DX would be amazing for reading datasheets while I design circuits, but in reality I need to draw the circuit and read multiple datasheets at the same time. One of these gizmos can't do that. Printing can do that, and at a tiny fraction of the price.
  - walterbell 12y ago
    No device can compete with the usability of paper. Devices can compete with libraries. Letter size e-ink pdf readers have long battery life (weeks), no eye strain due to page refresh, security/privacy of cloud-free offline SD card storage, fonts & diagrams in their original layouts, with handwriting annotation that exercises motor memory. The Sony device weighs 20% less than an iPad Air 2 while providing 60% more screen space. For anyone who travels and needs access to a changing subset of a large document corpus, there are few alternatives. The excessively high price on the Sony device is reportedly due to an exclusivity period (less than a year), because Sony funded research for the new screen. Hopefully cheaper competitors will appear soon. Even at the $1K price, the Sony device is selling far beyond their expectations, into business markets, so they are now selling it direct online.
mrbird 12y ago
I was surprised I didn't see mention of the reason I buy so many books electronically: Impatience. Getting the book now versus waiting a couple days is a big benefit for me.
Kluny 12y ago
Found it weird that the only explanation they could come up with for why students still buy ebooks was "saving the environment". How about the sheer weight of all the books you need to carry to last through a 16 hour flight?
davesque 12y ago
Well, yes, if you force people to use today's college ebooks. I made the mistake of buying ebooks a year ago. The ones I got forced me to use proprietary crap-ware that hardly worked, let alone worked the way I wanted. Eventually, I downloaded illegal PDF copies of the print versions of the books (that I legitimately paid for!) Using simple PDFs and an iPad was a dream come true. I can't imagine anything better for large, technical textbooks. Unfortunately, the legit offerings from text book companies don't even come close. Honestly, I'm inclined to look sideways at this article. The college text book industry is just too entrenched and future-phobic for me not to believe that special interests funded these findings.
vph 12y ago
This finding is not surprising and is a result of shortsightedness by technology companies, IMHO. They placed more importance in video games, multimedia than the simple readability of texts. First, they moved away from antiglare, matte screens. They favor flashy, shiny highly reflect displays, which show shiny videos and images very well, can are subpar compared to matte screens when reading in different lighting conditions. Second, they put less money in developing technologies similar to the Kindle readers, which prioritize reading. I am sick and tired of reading reviews of devices based on their ability to watch videos and play games. I want to get things done. I want screens that do not reflect. I want screens on which I can read comfortably in different lighting situations. Give me those.
facepalm 12y ago
I've seen a calculation claiming an ebook-reader is better for the environment after 10 books.
lbotos 12y ago
I think the biggest problem is we are getting e-books that are just digital representations of physical books. I'm learning music theory right now and it would be great if the book I'm following was an app with animated examples to re-enforce the concepts. I'm also imagining the time I first saw the animated unit circle gif (years after trig class): http://i.stack.imgur.com/1oSJw.gif http://i.stack.imgur.com/1oSJw.gif If that was in my "e-textbook", I think some concepts would be easier to explain. I think we are sitting at just the cusp of what "e-books" in school should be. They shouldn't just be for words, but for conceptual learning in a school setting.
- bphogan 12y ago
  I agree with this. And as an author and teacher, I really want to use iBooks Author for that reason, but it's incredibly limited in both what it allows and who can use the books. There's an opportunity for an authoring tool for these kinds of books where media can be easily managed, and interactivity can be easily integrated. ePub has some potential, but again, the e-readers handle it poorly in my experience. What options and tools are out there to solve this problem? I've looked at SCORM, I've hacked some web page stuff together, but those all seem to require you to sit in front of an actual computer, not in a self-contained book format. Some friends of mine have done amazing things with iBooks Author, but the reach is very narrow from what I can tell.
- baddox 12y ago
  Which book are you reading, out of curiosity? I recently bought Harmonic Experience, the physical book, and thought it was funny that it is even offered in the Kindle format. (By the way, it's not at all an introductory or comprehensive music theory book. It's about the history of harmony, temperament systems, and psychoacoustics.) http://www.amazon.com/Harmonic-Experience-Harmony-Natural-Expression/dp/0892815604 http://www.amazon.com/Harmonic-Experience-Harmony-Natural-Ex...
  - lbotos 12y ago
    I'm reading http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1598635034/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me= http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1598635034/ref=olp_product_... which was chosen because I hoped that the "angle" would be useful for me as a DJ who needs to start making some remixes to go to the "next level". I'm about 4 chapters in so far and I'm pretty happy. I've also been supplementing it with Tenuto, Theory and Fiddlewax Blue (All iOS apps). I plan on getting FiddleWax Pro soon as it seems really fun.
SixSigma 12y ago
What this doesn't go into is how the students evaluated such a task > When students were given a choice of various media—including hard copy, cell phone, tablet, e-reader, and laptop How many have actually compared those devices? And what digital format were they using epub, pdf, HTML, txt ? I have all those devices to try out the same books on. And I'm a student. I would rate them 1) E-reader - least eye strain, good bookmarking, one more device to carry - I only have one without a backlight 2) Tablet - better pdf support, good bookmarking, backlight is handy, multi function can be a boon and a distraction 3) Hard copy - I still read a lot of paper books - too bulky, I bought a sheet feed scanner just to scan my library and dump it 4) Laptop - at least it's not a phone 5) Phone - too small but I have read whole books using it when I had no option
- com2kid 12y ago
  How do you deal with flipping back and forth pages? For math classes specifically (realistically the only classes that I used a book for), I would frequently flip all around the book, where I was flipping too and from varied per chapter of course. Often times it would be 2 or so locations in the book that had all formula's listed (for the well organized math books!), the n and n-1 chapters text, the page with the current problem set that I was working on, and an answer key in the back of the book. I guess I could set all of those up as bookmarks, but it'd be a real pain to have to keep adjusting bookmarks every day. The slow page turn speed is just a killer for e-readers IMHO. Heck even for large PDFs on tablets I have issues. Right now laptop is about competitive with a paper book (and searching can help a lot, but PDF searching is abysmal in seeming 80% of PDFs), and last time I tried a tablet (about a year ago) they tended to just choke and die on RPG ebooks. (But hey, they are 2x as fast now so maybe things work...)
  - SixSigma 12y ago
    I should have said that my course is Supply Chain Management, so there's not so much page flipping. But if there was I would probably write formulas down in my hand written notes as I was reading.
stealthlogic 12y ago
So do I.
adam419 12y ago
The problem with ebooks is the false ownership. I much prefer ebooks, but as opposed to a physical copy, unless I get my hands on the pdf or epub file when I "buy" a book in iBooks I don't actually own that book.
- dublinben 12y ago
  This is most apparent with digital textbooks, which are often only sold as rentals for the duration of a single semester. You are paying for the book, except it disappears after a few months.
user3141592653 12y ago
smart people, good for them!
hnnewguy 12y ago
The two (huge) advantages of e-books, for me: 1) physical space 2) abundance of available material. In a perfect world, I'd own physical copies of all books. But as an avid reader, ebooks have been a godsend.
zyxley 12y ago
It would be interesting to see the comparison done again with a subset of e-textbooks actually designed to take advantage of the platform (and not just be an exported PDF dumped into an azw or epub), like some of the better iBooks examples.
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stegosaurus 12y ago
'they say they get distracted, pulled away to other things.' This is probably the biggest draw away from e-readers for me and the reason I gave up on them. For prose, Amazon's Kindle achieved the right form factor, battery life, display combo many iterations ago for me; but I seemingly can't handle having so much information available with a button press. It's just too little effort. It's one of those oddities of being human, I feel. It seems perfectly possible in theory to learn about a complex field fairly rapidly by simply using Wikipedia and Google, but in practice the discipline required to not wander off-topic I find impossible to manage. The sort of semi-procrastination that occurs when you're still being productive (because you're still learning), but you realise that you've gone from studying waveforms to ventricular fibrillation. The thing that's so strange about it to me is that books themselves are alien concepts, there's nothing inherent about them - humans chugged along for millenia without them. Yet somehow, clicking off of an e-book for 'just a few seconds' to look something up seems to function differently to, say, closing one book and opening another. Reminds me of the Doorway Effect.
- stegosaurus 12y ago
  I've also seemingly paradoxically found that scarcity seems to have a dramatic effect on this. Immersion, the sense of losing hours to a good book (or a good movie, or video game, etcetera) I seem to find more difficult as availability increases. There's a constant nagging feeling that I could be making better use of that time, that perhaps the next book on Gutenberg would be 'better' (whatever that means). It's very difficult to really pin down why that is. If I were fantastically wealthy and could buy books by the truckload without even thinking about it, would I feel detached from them all in the same way?
  - morbius 12y ago
    What you're describing seems to me like blasé, and it's a fairly well-documented phenomenon.
jghn 12y ago
I much prefer printed books, but what I prefer even more than that is the savings of physical space I achieve by having e-books on my iPad instead of print books sitting on a shelf.
fnordfnordfnord 12y ago
College e-texts are typically "rented", the use terms are terrible. Also, exams in courses I teach are almost always open-book, but I don't allow electronic communication devices, which most tablets qualify as.
rishubhav 12y ago
I'm suprised that no one's mentioned this yet, but I've found that even for linear prose-text, my recall of what I've read is much better with paper books than with ebooks. My working hypothesis for why this is true is that it's easily the mentally differentiate the paper books I've read: when I try to remember a book, often the first thing that comes up in my mind is the cover art. My mental records of paper books are indexed by a multitude of factors---what the cover looked like, what the paper felt like, approximate size, typeface, etc.---that just aren't there for ebooks
jasonwilk 12y ago
I am not a college student anymore, but I can only imagine the time savings of searching for answers and/or keywords in an ebook when writing a paper or finishing a take home test. As for the ebook vs print argument as a 29 year old, I always order my books on amazon in paperback or hard copy. I stare at a screen all day, and don't want to sit down for an enjoyable read using the same medium. I also always order used copies of books and the prices are often times $.99-$2.00. Far cheaper than a digital copy.
donald_trumpet 12y ago
They need an e-ink screen that is big enough to show an A4 PDF. The e-reader (which actually an Android tablet with an e-ink screen) below at [1] is the only one I am aware of, apart from the very expensive Sony legal A4 e-reader. (I own the smaller version of this e-reader and it is excellent) [1] https://onyx-boox.com/shop/onyx-boox-m96-universe-97-inch-e-ink-pearl-display-e-book-reader-google-play-ivona-text-speech-bluetooth-4-0-low-energy-powered-android-4-0-4/ https://onyx-boox.com/shop/onyx-boox-m96-universe-97-inch-e-...
hackuser 12y ago
A few thoughts: 1) Hardware interface: People here are conflating hardware interfaces (e.g., on Kindles) with the data medium (e.g., paper or ebook). For serious knowledge work, such as studying, of course a large screen area (such as dual 22" monitors) and good input (such as a full-sized keyboard) are essential. I think the question is, in that environment, which data medium is better 2) Software interface: How much is an issue of basic interface design. Paper book interfaces have been perfected over centuries; ebook interfaces are still immature. With the right interface, could ebooks exceed paper? 3) Does anyone know if ebook formats combine these capabilities: * I own the data; it's not licensed to me. * Open formats, so the book is readable 20 years from now, including the annotations (see below) * Annotation: I can add notes and associate them with specific locations in the text. 4) An interesting article on ebooks disrupting the college textbook business: http://www.fastcolabs.com/3028855/why-cant-e-books-disrupt-the-lucrative-college-textbook-business http://www.fastcolabs.com/3028855/why-cant-e-books-disrupt-t...
jimkri 12y ago
At first I was going to agree with this statement; however, I hate carrying all of my textbooks around, and if I have the e-book of the text that means I saved a lot of money. I do love reading paper books, you cannot replace the feeling of holding a paper book in your hands. It is something that I love about paper books. But I really do love the fact that I can have all 5 of my text books in one device that weighs less than any text book I am currently carrying around. Last semester I had all E-Books and I was able to bring them all with me at work, and I was also able to read them while sitting in my work truck in the dark. This semester I do not have any E-Books and two of my text books are fairly large. Which really sucks, because I hate having a heavy back pack. All around I do love having E-Books, on the Kindle I can slide back and forth to different sections, high light the pages and everything I do with paper books. I also take notes on paper as I go along with the E-Book, it really helps me to remember certain parts. I am saying this at the beginning of the semester though, I might change where I stand but I currently love E-books, except when the battery runs out I hate the thing haha. Who wouldn't love to have 6 major textbooks on one device?
ghshephard 12y ago
It took me several years before I made the cognitive switch to preferring eBooks for large, complex, dynamically accessed textbooks over the paper variant. For the first few years I actually couldn't stand trying to read stuff on my laptop versus a nice healthy paper text book (of which I have about 4 boxes that I've incredibly carefully curated down from around 10 boxes). And even attempting to read them on the crappy kindle technology and laggy ipads just sucked beyond belief circa late 2010. It was probably around 2012/2013 that they became my preferred platform on Laptops. Two things probably changed things - SSDs became commonplace, so load times were instant, and, EPUB/CHM readers got a lot betters - allowing quick hotkey movement back/forth. Now, laptops work great - but tablets (in particular, everything I've tried on the iPad), still lags horribly for textbook reading (though they are great for longform prose - I devour books on my iPad - but it's not clear that the iPad is any better for reading fiction books for me than my iPhone - and I suspect the iPhone 6+ is going to replace reading on both in short form for everything except magazines/comics). Recently, I purchased the Oreilly 5th Edition "Learning Python" and almost laughed. (A) The book is entirely infeasible to bring with you on a trip, (B) I actually had a hard time navigating it, compared to the electronic version which gives me the quickly navigated TOC on the side. And, the deal breaker - I carry about 30 commonly used textbooks with me on 9 month+ international engagements, all the time in which I'm constantly moving from country to country. It's hard (but I guess possible) to imagine how I might do that with physical textbooks (Just keep shipping them to the hotels I'm next moving to, and hope I'm there long enough to meet up with them). But I can think of no conceivable scenario in which I could be using these textbooks on the 22 Hour+ flights that I frequently take. I'm willing to wager I'll never use a physical textbook again.
codexjourneys 12y ago
I also prefer print books for in-depth work that requires flipping around between different pages while also working on the computer. There is also something comforting about reading a paper book for fun. My iPad is just not warm and fuzzy. However, I can't carry my paper books everywhere I go, so I have largely moved to reading by iPad for necessity's sake (I travel quite a bit). Search functionality is awesome for non-fiction how-to books, but my thought process hasn't quite adjusted.
redler 12y ago
We'll know the solution is near at hand when there's a satisfying way to represent a book like "House of Leaves" (colored words, intentionally blank/sideways/mirrored pages, backwards text, and other typographic mischief) or "Gödel Escher Bach" (diagrams, puzzles embedded in formatting, messages riffing self-referentially on the medium in which they're represented). This is apparently a long way off, given that after all these years, the Kindle hasn't even evolved to the point where it can render a page without what is often sparse and uncomely full justification (to the best of my knowledge).
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Quequau 12y ago
I think part of the problem is that there is no full letter/A4 device that isn't heart stoppingly expensive and hard to actually buy. I might have most of the texts I need to read in digital form but I'm not going to read it on a tiny eReader meant for pulp fiction and my iPad has too many distractions for me to honestly get through dense centent like text books.
bbcbasic 12y ago
"They run out of battery, they hurt your eyes, they don’t work in the bath." None of that is practically true. The Kindle can run out of battery but lets face it it lasts weeks so you just need to remember to charge it occasionally. It is unlikely to die on you like a mobile phone. I am not sure what they mean by hurt your eyes, but the ability to change the font size and still have convenient paging is brilliant. With a paper book you have to don your 2x non-prescription glasses I guess. And they do work with the operator in the bath, and the eReader just above the surface. Just keep the window open so it isn't too steamy, and have a table ready for when you want to put the reader down (stop reading once your toes start to wrinkle!).
- dublinben 12y ago
  Kobo even offers a waterproof[0] e-reader, which is better than any paper book. [0]https://www.kobo.com/koboaurah2o https://www.kobo.com/koboaurah2o
- com2kid 12y ago
  Oddly enough, my mother started having problems with eye strain with her Kindle a couple months back. She switched to a high DPI tablet and says it is easier for her. Rather odd since it goes against everything I think I know about eInk versus LCD, but the end user is always right!
SixSigma 12y ago
Sample size: 300 across four countries. There are 20 million college students in the US alone. I don't think that is a large enough sample size.
- Retra 12y ago
  With those numbers, that's about a 5.5% error margin at a 95% confidence level.
  - SixSigma 12y ago
    Assuming the same rate of higher education in Europe, that's another 20m.
azernik 12y ago
"NB: If you’re annotating on a Kindle, on a Kobo, you see—you know how many people thought that word was really important, or maybe everybody else liked this passage. If we sat and thought about it, what we think the author has to say. … Rather, we’re just trying to present ourselves or fit in." ... who thought this feature was a good idea to build??!!
Htsthbjig 12y ago
I travel a lot around the world, so I digitalized my entire library, University notes, everything... I used a Fujitsu ScanSnap(amazing scanner with automatic feeder) to digitalized them using a Wood saw to cut the back of the books. I stored them in boxes in a locker room. I love it because I control it. I could analyze my documents, I could index them, I could organize them as I want. I could mark them too on my tablet. Much better than paper. But most people can't do it(each of my kids going with a USD400 device to school sounds ridiculous to me). A tablet is expensive just for reading, and more expensive if you are going to add an active pen, like I use. What is quite shocking is that the device I use the most for reading is a new 55 inches LG OLED screen, rotated 90 degrees. I use software that converts black over white "paper" to green on black. Einks are slow, very bad resolution, monocrome(exchanging resolutions for tones using halftoning), and very small screen. If only Qualcomm Mirasol or other technologies were cheaper it will be totally different. Not ready yet for the mass market.
- walterbell 12y ago
  > What is quite shocking is that the device I use the most for reading is a new 55 inches LG OLED screen, rotated 90 degrees. Is that because you prefer to focus at a longer distance? > I love it because I control it. I could analyze my documents, I could index them, I could organize them as I want. I could mark them too on my tablet. Do you store them as PDFs? What software do you use for indexing/ocr?
- hobbes78 12y ago
  The last ebook reader from Amazon (Kindle Voyage) features 300 dpi, so it's on par with inkjet standard resolution... But the other problems remain...
Fomite 12y ago
This does not surprise me - I print all peer-reviewed journal articles I'm giving anything beyond a cursory glance, and generally prefer print editions of journals.
GoldenHomer 12y ago
Not what I expected at all. I would guess that college students would prefer taking notes electronically rather than writing with traditional pen and paper.

122 points by Thevet 12y ago

I feel the complete opposite for all of the college textbooks I've used (although all of my textbooks are filled with problems rather than readings). Using a laptop or e-reader to read textbooks is awesome for a couple of reasons. First off, having multiple textbooks doesn't weigh anything, and I can carry them around at all times. Secondly, when doing assignments and the like, I can bookmark the answer section in the back, and flip back and forth between questions and answers arguably faster than I could with a paper book. Finally, the best part of electronic books is the ability to search through it. Every definition in the book is a Ctrl+F away. So maybe reading books electronically isn't as great when you're doing a lot of actual reading, but in my experience using more math/science textbooks, electronic wins out every time.

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nickthemagicman 12y ago
This. And i use ctrl c. Boom two copies of the text book one for the problem page, one for referencing.
ecspike 12y ago
So true about math/science books. I think they work for a lot of fiction reading too, you just have to set adaptive brightness or change to a darker background to avoid strain.
xur17 12y ago
I agree textbooks on a laptop are really great - no heavy books, and Ctrl+F works really well. I can't imagine they work very well on e-readers though - it seems like flipping through pages would be slow, and ctrl+f would be pretty difficult without a real keyboard.
- wyldfire 12y ago
  The original e-ink Kindle had a real keyboard. It's a little less awkward than the e-ink Nook which used (uses?) a small LCD touchscreen keyboard.
- diyorgasms 12y ago
  Not exactly an e-reader, but I read my textbooks on a Nexus 7 most of the time. I use Moon+ Reader, and the search and bookmarking features are phenomenal. When I am on a desktop or notebook computer, I use either Evince or Preview, depending on the platform I am using. I would say Moon+ provides an experience equal to that of Evince, and definitely better than Preview, at least for the purposes of being an ebook reader.
lqdc13 12y ago
You need to have multiple copies open at the same time if you want to refer to different parts at the same time. Ctrl+f is great, but you end up losing the part of the book you were at before you started searching. So basically I needed to have 4 copies open at a time. 3 for different parts of the book I needed to refer to and one for searching. This made the actual size of the text way too small on a laptop screen. Some of the problems could probably be solved with bookmarking software, but then you have to remember where each bookmark is instead of glancing at it.
- spike021 12y ago
  Not necessarily. I use the PDF-reader on OSX called Skim and it lets me bookmark the current page I'm on. Then I can just keep clicking the bookmark menu item and switching to the page I need. Only one copy. Each bookmark can have a label. Not too bad.
  - dubya 12y ago
    Potentially even more useful is the split view. Unfortunately, it only does horizontal splits, and only two at a time. I need to search again sometime for a reader with vertical splits, as horizontal splits are mostly useless on a little 11" screen. Though Skim is open source...
  - alexland 12y ago
    I also use Skim, it works really well. A pretty cool feature is the back and forward buttons, that hold your page if you skip through large chunks. For example, if I use the table of contents (Cmd + Shift + T) to go to the answers section, I can press back to get back to the question I was on. Then forward brings me to the answers once again. That's basically my textbook workflow 90% of the time.
    - spike021 12y ago
      That works too! I really like using Skim. Without it, I would definitely not like reading/doing problems from my textbooks.
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vlunkr 12y ago
My thoughts exactly. Ctrl+F was priceless for classes I didn't care about and just wanted to quickly find the quiz answers or whatever.

taylorwc 12y ago

>found a near-universal preference for print, especially for serious reading Is this really any surprise for "serious reading"? Reading a textbook, especially one with lots of graphs, charts, figures, etc., is miserable on an e-reader. I suppose I always assumed that pleasure reading was the most popular use case for an e-reader. Maybe I'm way off. EDIT: while muddling through this in my brain, I realized that I've been mentally defining e-readers as E-Ink readers.

joshuapants 12y ago

> There are two big issues. The first was they say they get distracted, pulled away to other things. The second had to do with eye strain and headaches and physical discomfort. These problems may be common with laptops and tablets, but e-readers fix that. You can't get distracted if the device is only capable of reading books, and e-ink screens offer far less eyestrain than typical LCDs. Personally, I would say that I prefer reading print books over ebooks, but I vastly prefer reading ebooks on an e-reader over reading them on a different device. I also have almost no shelf space, so being able to store hundreds of books on my device is a great benefit. I get print copies of my favorite books, but in general I use the e-reader for everything else. I have no experience with e-textbooks, however.

higherpurpose 12y ago
This is what I don't like about this headline and study. It seems to conflate pretty easily iPads/tablets and "ereaders", because it doesn't look like they only tested e-ink ereaders, but "ebook readers", and many use iPads for reading ebooks. That's how they got the eye strain.

saosebastiao 12y ago

I just had a conversation about this last friday with a coworker. We both basically came to the conclusion that the only e-books that work are prose-oriented, not learning-oriented. With your average novel, you only read from beginning to end, and you only read words. With a textbook, you not only read words, but you read diagrams and figures. You also skip around...you follow footnotes, references, and you also might follow a curricula that was not defined by the author. You will often refer to two or three different hotspots while studying a single chapter...for example, while working on practice problems, you will flip back and forth between the practice problems, the chapter intro, the context for that problem, and possibly a chapter recap. This user-adoption gap is not one of the underlying medium, but rather of the user interface. Flipping pages one at a time is not sufficient.

thrownaway2424 12y ago
Try reading Infinite Jest on a Kindle. Half of the book is in the end notes.
- zokier 12y ago
  I made the mistake of buying Pale Fire on Kindle. It is basically unreadable due it's structure.
- tmurray 12y ago
  I actually read IJ on a Kindle and found it significantly easier for the most part than reading it in print because of links to endnotes, which removed the requirement to keep two sets of bookmarks (if you haven't read it, some endnotes in IJ are a sentence are two, some are 40 pages). There were some occasional issues with going back to the main text (IIRC the back button's stack wasn't saved across sleep), but overall it was much better for me. But no, I'd never read a textbook on a Kindle. Can't flip around.
  - thrownaway2424 12y ago
    I thought the loss of the back button during sleep was infuriating.

mostly_harmless 12y ago

ereaders are a really nice platform but the current problem with ereaders is the lack of tactile feedback, and the difficulty of random seeking. The first issue is mostly just preference. being able to see how far finished a book you are and the satisfaction of flipping a page is nice, but has little utility. The second issue is a bigger problem. anything but a linear read from start to finish is difficult on an ereader. the only reasonable use case of ereaders in the current form is reading a novel. anything with a more complicated interaction, such as textbooks where you need to jump back and forth for reference to equations; choose your own adventure books; or books with footnotes or endnotes are severely limited. I'm not sure if either of these issues can be fully solved, but they will definitely need to be mitigated in the UI for ereaders to have a more sustainable demand.

programminggeek 12y ago

College books on e-readers aren't amazing yet. This isn't very surprising at all. Novel style ebooks are a great fit for the Kindle reader. Technical books are not so great. I don't think there is a big push to get technical book reading experiences to be super amazing, even with the iPad being so popular.

TillE 12y ago
A 10" iPad is still too small to legibly render a typical textbook. It requires a lot of scrolling and/or zooming. If the rumors of a 12-13" iPad turn out to be true, this will certainly be one of its primary uses. I'd buy one just for reading my large collection of PDFs for tabletop RPGs.

withdavidli 12y ago

Love digital text. The find command saves me so much time than flipping and skimming. Books with a lot of charts and graphs, it's a hassle even in print. Figuring out the placement so relavent text and visuals can be displayed on a single page would be better, and it would be easier to experiment with the format digitally.

ecspike 12y ago

"In the United States, e-books are less expensive. Students will say, “I’d like to have the print version, but the electronic version is so much less expensive.” But if you buy a book used, the publisher and the author are not getting any money but they are getting another reader and they’re not cutting another tree. And the cost is less. And if it goes to a third generation the cost is really less." That's a nice sentiment but there were a bunch of books in college that purposely changed portions from year to year to kill to resale market. Some profs were cool and researched what sections/questions would be so that you could use one of the 3 editions available but others didn't care. I was happy to get all some of my books in digital form in grad school. Preparing for finals was so much easier.

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walterbell 12y ago

We need a comparison of print, pdf and epub. PDF can retain print layout and typography, which makes a big difference in aesthetics. EPUB still needs work from device makers, to honor embedded fonts. When the flexible eink screen from the 13" Sony Digital Paper goes mainstream with a bluetooth keyboard and Android clones, students can have access to a large yet lightweight device for reading PDF+epub, handwritten annotations and typed notes. http://goodereader.com/blog/electronic-readers/sony-digital-paper-review http://goodereader.com/blog/electronic-readers/sony-digital-...

thrownaway2424 12y ago
That looks Pretty Cool(tm) for dorks, but what's the real advantage over an actual piece of paper? Other than infinite content-to-weight ratio I don't really see the justification for the price tag. It's inconvenient, much heavier than single piece of paper or small magazines, journals, and printed out papers, needs a special pencil, requires charging. I used to think that something like a Kindle DX would be amazing for reading datasheets while I design circuits, but in reality I need to draw the circuit and read multiple datasheets at the same time. One of these gizmos can't do that. Printing can do that, and at a tiny fraction of the price.
- walterbell 12y ago
  No device can compete with the usability of paper. Devices can compete with libraries. Letter size e-ink pdf readers have long battery life (weeks), no eye strain due to page refresh, security/privacy of cloud-free offline SD card storage, fonts & diagrams in their original layouts, with handwriting annotation that exercises motor memory. The Sony device weighs 20% less than an iPad Air 2 while providing 60% more screen space. For anyone who travels and needs access to a changing subset of a large document corpus, there are few alternatives. The excessively high price on the Sony device is reportedly due to an exclusivity period (less than a year), because Sony funded research for the new screen. Hopefully cheaper competitors will appear soon. Even at the $1K price, the Sony device is selling far beyond their expectations, into business markets, so they are now selling it direct online.

mrbird 12y ago

I was surprised I didn't see mention of the reason I buy so many books electronically: Impatience. Getting the book now versus waiting a couple days is a big benefit for me.

Kluny 12y ago

Found it weird that the only explanation they could come up with for why students still buy ebooks was "saving the environment". How about the sheer weight of all the books you need to carry to last through a 16 hour flight?

davesque 12y ago

Well, yes, if you force people to use today's college ebooks. I made the mistake of buying ebooks a year ago. The ones I got forced me to use proprietary crap-ware that hardly worked, let alone worked the way I wanted. Eventually, I downloaded illegal PDF copies of the print versions of the books (that I legitimately paid for!) Using simple PDFs and an iPad was a dream come true. I can't imagine anything better for large, technical textbooks. Unfortunately, the legit offerings from text book companies don't even come close. Honestly, I'm inclined to look sideways at this article. The college text book industry is just too entrenched and future-phobic for me not to believe that special interests funded these findings.

vph 12y ago

This finding is not surprising and is a result of shortsightedness by technology companies, IMHO. They placed more importance in video games, multimedia than the simple readability of texts. First, they moved away from antiglare, matte screens. They favor flashy, shiny highly reflect displays, which show shiny videos and images very well, can are subpar compared to matte screens when reading in different lighting conditions. Second, they put less money in developing technologies similar to the Kindle readers, which prioritize reading. I am sick and tired of reading reviews of devices based on their ability to watch videos and play games. I want to get things done. I want screens that do not reflect. I want screens on which I can read comfortably in different lighting situations. Give me those.

facepalm 12y ago

I've seen a calculation claiming an ebook-reader is better for the environment after 10 books.

lbotos 12y ago

I think the biggest problem is we are getting e-books that are just digital representations of physical books. I'm learning music theory right now and it would be great if the book I'm following was an app with animated examples to re-enforce the concepts. I'm also imagining the time I first saw the animated unit circle gif (years after trig class): http://i.stack.imgur.com/1oSJw.gif http://i.stack.imgur.com/1oSJw.gif If that was in my "e-textbook", I think some concepts would be easier to explain. I think we are sitting at just the cusp of what "e-books" in school should be. They shouldn't just be for words, but for conceptual learning in a school setting.

bphogan 12y ago
I agree with this. And as an author and teacher, I really want to use iBooks Author for that reason, but it's incredibly limited in both what it allows and who can use the books. There's an opportunity for an authoring tool for these kinds of books where media can be easily managed, and interactivity can be easily integrated. ePub has some potential, but again, the e-readers handle it poorly in my experience. What options and tools are out there to solve this problem? I've looked at SCORM, I've hacked some web page stuff together, but those all seem to require you to sit in front of an actual computer, not in a self-contained book format. Some friends of mine have done amazing things with iBooks Author, but the reach is very narrow from what I can tell.
baddox 12y ago
Which book are you reading, out of curiosity? I recently bought Harmonic Experience, the physical book, and thought it was funny that it is even offered in the Kindle format. (By the way, it's not at all an introductory or comprehensive music theory book. It's about the history of harmony, temperament systems, and psychoacoustics.) http://www.amazon.com/Harmonic-Experience-Harmony-Natural-Expression/dp/0892815604 http://www.amazon.com/Harmonic-Experience-Harmony-Natural-Ex...
- lbotos 12y ago
  I'm reading http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1598635034/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me= http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1598635034/ref=olp_product_... which was chosen because I hoped that the "angle" would be useful for me as a DJ who needs to start making some remixes to go to the "next level". I'm about 4 chapters in so far and I'm pretty happy. I've also been supplementing it with Tenuto, Theory and Fiddlewax Blue (All iOS apps). I plan on getting FiddleWax Pro soon as it seems really fun.

SixSigma 12y ago

What this doesn't go into is how the students evaluated such a task > When students were given a choice of various media—including hard copy, cell phone, tablet, e-reader, and laptop How many have actually compared those devices? And what digital format were they using epub, pdf, HTML, txt ? I have all those devices to try out the same books on. And I'm a student. I would rate them 1) E-reader - least eye strain, good bookmarking, one more device to carry - I only have one without a backlight 2) Tablet - better pdf support, good bookmarking, backlight is handy, multi function can be a boon and a distraction 3) Hard copy - I still read a lot of paper books - too bulky, I bought a sheet feed scanner just to scan my library and dump it 4) Laptop - at least it's not a phone 5) Phone - too small but I have read whole books using it when I had no option

com2kid 12y ago
How do you deal with flipping back and forth pages? For math classes specifically (realistically the only classes that I used a book for), I would frequently flip all around the book, where I was flipping too and from varied per chapter of course. Often times it would be 2 or so locations in the book that had all formula's listed (for the well organized math books!), the n and n-1 chapters text, the page with the current problem set that I was working on, and an answer key in the back of the book. I guess I could set all of those up as bookmarks, but it'd be a real pain to have to keep adjusting bookmarks every day. The slow page turn speed is just a killer for e-readers IMHO. Heck even for large PDFs on tablets I have issues. Right now laptop is about competitive with a paper book (and searching can help a lot, but PDF searching is abysmal in seeming 80% of PDFs), and last time I tried a tablet (about a year ago) they tended to just choke and die on RPG ebooks. (But hey, they are 2x as fast now so maybe things work...)
- SixSigma 12y ago
  I should have said that my course is Supply Chain Management, so there's not so much page flipping. But if there was I would probably write formulas down in my hand written notes as I was reading.

stealthlogic 12y ago

So do I.

adam419 12y ago

The problem with ebooks is the false ownership. I much prefer ebooks, but as opposed to a physical copy, unless I get my hands on the pdf or epub file when I "buy" a book in iBooks I don't actually own that book.

dublinben 12y ago
This is most apparent with digital textbooks, which are often only sold as rentals for the duration of a single semester. You are paying for the book, except it disappears after a few months.

user3141592653 12y ago

smart people, good for them!

hnnewguy 12y ago

The two (huge) advantages of e-books, for me: 1) physical space 2) abundance of available material. In a perfect world, I'd own physical copies of all books. But as an avid reader, ebooks have been a godsend.

zyxley 12y ago

It would be interesting to see the comparison done again with a subset of e-textbooks actually designed to take advantage of the platform (and not just be an exported PDF dumped into an azw or epub), like some of the better iBooks examples.

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stegosaurus 12y ago

'they say they get distracted, pulled away to other things.' This is probably the biggest draw away from e-readers for me and the reason I gave up on them. For prose, Amazon's Kindle achieved the right form factor, battery life, display combo many iterations ago for me; but I seemingly can't handle having so much information available with a button press. It's just too little effort. It's one of those oddities of being human, I feel. It seems perfectly possible in theory to learn about a complex field fairly rapidly by simply using Wikipedia and Google, but in practice the discipline required to not wander off-topic I find impossible to manage. The sort of semi-procrastination that occurs when you're still being productive (because you're still learning), but you realise that you've gone from studying waveforms to ventricular fibrillation. The thing that's so strange about it to me is that books themselves are alien concepts, there's nothing inherent about them - humans chugged along for millenia without them. Yet somehow, clicking off of an e-book for 'just a few seconds' to look something up seems to function differently to, say, closing one book and opening another. Reminds me of the Doorway Effect.

stegosaurus 12y ago
I've also seemingly paradoxically found that scarcity seems to have a dramatic effect on this. Immersion, the sense of losing hours to a good book (or a good movie, or video game, etcetera) I seem to find more difficult as availability increases. There's a constant nagging feeling that I could be making better use of that time, that perhaps the next book on Gutenberg would be 'better' (whatever that means). It's very difficult to really pin down why that is. If I were fantastically wealthy and could buy books by the truckload without even thinking about it, would I feel detached from them all in the same way?
- morbius 12y ago
  What you're describing seems to me like blasé, and it's a fairly well-documented phenomenon.

jghn 12y ago

I much prefer printed books, but what I prefer even more than that is the savings of physical space I achieve by having e-books on my iPad instead of print books sitting on a shelf.

fnordfnordfnord 12y ago

College e-texts are typically "rented", the use terms are terrible. Also, exams in courses I teach are almost always open-book, but I don't allow electronic communication devices, which most tablets qualify as.

rishubhav 12y ago

I'm suprised that no one's mentioned this yet, but I've found that even for linear prose-text, my recall of what I've read is much better with paper books than with ebooks. My working hypothesis for why this is true is that it's easily the mentally differentiate the paper books I've read: when I try to remember a book, often the first thing that comes up in my mind is the cover art. My mental records of paper books are indexed by a multitude of factors---what the cover looked like, what the paper felt like, approximate size, typeface, etc.---that just aren't there for ebooks

jasonwilk 12y ago

I am not a college student anymore, but I can only imagine the time savings of searching for answers and/or keywords in an ebook when writing a paper or finishing a take home test. As for the ebook vs print argument as a 29 year old, I always order my books on amazon in paperback or hard copy. I stare at a screen all day, and don't want to sit down for an enjoyable read using the same medium. I also always order used copies of books and the prices are often times $.99-$2.00. Far cheaper than a digital copy.

donald_trumpet 12y ago

They need an e-ink screen that is big enough to show an A4 PDF. The e-reader (which actually an Android tablet with an e-ink screen) below at [1] is the only one I am aware of, apart from the very expensive Sony legal A4 e-reader. (I own the smaller version of this e-reader and it is excellent) [1] https://onyx-boox.com/shop/onyx-boox-m96-universe-97-inch-e-ink-pearl-display-e-book-reader-google-play-ivona-text-speech-bluetooth-4-0-low-energy-powered-android-4-0-4/ https://onyx-boox.com/shop/onyx-boox-m96-universe-97-inch-e-...

hackuser 12y ago

A few thoughts: 1) Hardware interface: People here are conflating hardware interfaces (e.g., on Kindles) with the data medium (e.g., paper or ebook). For serious knowledge work, such as studying, of course a large screen area (such as dual 22" monitors) and good input (such as a full-sized keyboard) are essential. I think the question is, in that environment, which data medium is better 2) Software interface: How much is an issue of basic interface design. Paper book interfaces have been perfected over centuries; ebook interfaces are still immature. With the right interface, could ebooks exceed paper? 3) Does anyone know if ebook formats combine these capabilities: * I own the data; it's not licensed to me. * Open formats, so the book is readable 20 years from now, including the annotations (see below) * Annotation: I can add notes and associate them with specific locations in the text. 4) An interesting article on ebooks disrupting the college textbook business: http://www.fastcolabs.com/3028855/why-cant-e-books-disrupt-the-lucrative-college-textbook-business http://www.fastcolabs.com/3028855/why-cant-e-books-disrupt-t...

jimkri 12y ago

At first I was going to agree with this statement; however, I hate carrying all of my textbooks around, and if I have the e-book of the text that means I saved a lot of money. I do love reading paper books, you cannot replace the feeling of holding a paper book in your hands. It is something that I love about paper books. But I really do love the fact that I can have all 5 of my text books in one device that weighs less than any text book I am currently carrying around. Last semester I had all E-Books and I was able to bring them all with me at work, and I was also able to read them while sitting in my work truck in the dark. This semester I do not have any E-Books and two of my text books are fairly large. Which really sucks, because I hate having a heavy back pack. All around I do love having E-Books, on the Kindle I can slide back and forth to different sections, high light the pages and everything I do with paper books. I also take notes on paper as I go along with the E-Book, it really helps me to remember certain parts. I am saying this at the beginning of the semester though, I might change where I stand but I currently love E-books, except when the battery runs out I hate the thing haha. Who wouldn't love to have 6 major textbooks on one device?

ghshephard 12y ago

It took me several years before I made the cognitive switch to preferring eBooks for large, complex, dynamically accessed textbooks over the paper variant. For the first few years I actually couldn't stand trying to read stuff on my laptop versus a nice healthy paper text book (of which I have about 4 boxes that I've incredibly carefully curated down from around 10 boxes). And even attempting to read them on the crappy kindle technology and laggy ipads just sucked beyond belief circa late 2010. It was probably around 2012/2013 that they became my preferred platform on Laptops. Two things probably changed things - SSDs became commonplace, so load times were instant, and, EPUB/CHM readers got a lot betters - allowing quick hotkey movement back/forth. Now, laptops work great - but tablets (in particular, everything I've tried on the iPad), still lags horribly for textbook reading (though they are great for longform prose - I devour books on my iPad - but it's not clear that the iPad is any better for reading fiction books for me than my iPhone - and I suspect the iPhone 6+ is going to replace reading on both in short form for everything except magazines/comics). Recently, I purchased the Oreilly 5th Edition "Learning Python" and almost laughed. (A) The book is entirely infeasible to bring with you on a trip, (B) I actually had a hard time navigating it, compared to the electronic version which gives me the quickly navigated TOC on the side. And, the deal breaker - I carry about 30 commonly used textbooks with me on 9 month+ international engagements, all the time in which I'm constantly moving from country to country. It's hard (but I guess possible) to imagine how I might do that with physical textbooks (Just keep shipping them to the hotels I'm next moving to, and hope I'm there long enough to meet up with them). But I can think of no conceivable scenario in which I could be using these textbooks on the 22 Hour+ flights that I frequently take. I'm willing to wager I'll never use a physical textbook again.

codexjourneys 12y ago

I also prefer print books for in-depth work that requires flipping around between different pages while also working on the computer. There is also something comforting about reading a paper book for fun. My iPad is just not warm and fuzzy. However, I can't carry my paper books everywhere I go, so I have largely moved to reading by iPad for necessity's sake (I travel quite a bit). Search functionality is awesome for non-fiction how-to books, but my thought process hasn't quite adjusted.

redler 12y ago

We'll know the solution is near at hand when there's a satisfying way to represent a book like "House of Leaves" (colored words, intentionally blank/sideways/mirrored pages, backwards text, and other typographic mischief) or "Gödel Escher Bach" (diagrams, puzzles embedded in formatting, messages riffing self-referentially on the medium in which they're represented). This is apparently a long way off, given that after all these years, the Kindle hasn't even evolved to the point where it can render a page without what is often sparse and uncomely full justification (to the best of my knowledge).

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Quequau 12y ago

I think part of the problem is that there is no full letter/A4 device that isn't heart stoppingly expensive and hard to actually buy. I might have most of the texts I need to read in digital form but I'm not going to read it on a tiny eReader meant for pulp fiction and my iPad has too many distractions for me to honestly get through dense centent like text books.

bbcbasic 12y ago

"They run out of battery, they hurt your eyes, they don’t work in the bath." None of that is practically true. The Kindle can run out of battery but lets face it it lasts weeks so you just need to remember to charge it occasionally. It is unlikely to die on you like a mobile phone. I am not sure what they mean by hurt your eyes, but the ability to change the font size and still have convenient paging is brilliant. With a paper book you have to don your 2x non-prescription glasses I guess. And they do work with the operator in the bath, and the eReader just above the surface. Just keep the window open so it isn't too steamy, and have a table ready for when you want to put the reader down (stop reading once your toes start to wrinkle!).

dublinben 12y ago
Kobo even offers a waterproof[0] e-reader, which is better than any paper book. [0]https://www.kobo.com/koboaurah2o https://www.kobo.com/koboaurah2o
com2kid 12y ago
Oddly enough, my mother started having problems with eye strain with her Kindle a couple months back. She switched to a high DPI tablet and says it is easier for her. Rather odd since it goes against everything I think I know about eInk versus LCD, but the end user is always right!

SixSigma 12y ago

Sample size: 300 across four countries. There are 20 million college students in the US alone. I don't think that is a large enough sample size.

Retra 12y ago
With those numbers, that's about a 5.5% error margin at a 95% confidence level.
- SixSigma 12y ago
  Assuming the same rate of higher education in Europe, that's another 20m.

azernik 12y ago

"NB: If you’re annotating on a Kindle, on a Kobo, you see—you know how many people thought that word was really important, or maybe everybody else liked this passage. If we sat and thought about it, what we think the author has to say. … Rather, we’re just trying to present ourselves or fit in." ... who thought this feature was a good idea to build??!!

Htsthbjig 12y ago

I travel a lot around the world, so I digitalized my entire library, University notes, everything... I used a Fujitsu ScanSnap(amazing scanner with automatic feeder) to digitalized them using a Wood saw to cut the back of the books. I stored them in boxes in a locker room. I love it because I control it. I could analyze my documents, I could index them, I could organize them as I want. I could mark them too on my tablet. Much better than paper. But most people can't do it(each of my kids going with a USD400 device to school sounds ridiculous to me). A tablet is expensive just for reading, and more expensive if you are going to add an active pen, like I use. What is quite shocking is that the device I use the most for reading is a new 55 inches LG OLED screen, rotated 90 degrees. I use software that converts black over white "paper" to green on black. Einks are slow, very bad resolution, monocrome(exchanging resolutions for tones using halftoning), and very small screen. If only Qualcomm Mirasol or other technologies were cheaper it will be totally different. Not ready yet for the mass market.

walterbell 12y ago
> What is quite shocking is that the device I use the most for reading is a new 55 inches LG OLED screen, rotated 90 degrees. Is that because you prefer to focus at a longer distance? > I love it because I control it. I could analyze my documents, I could index them, I could organize them as I want. I could mark them too on my tablet. Do you store them as PDFs? What software do you use for indexing/ocr?
hobbes78 12y ago
The last ebook reader from Amazon (Kindle Voyage) features 300 dpi, so it's on par with inkjet standard resolution... But the other problems remain...

Fomite 12y ago

This does not surprise me - I print all peer-reviewed journal articles I'm giving anything beyond a cursory glance, and generally prefer print editions of journals.

GoldenHomer 12y ago

Not what I expected at all. I would guess that college students would prefer taking notes electronically rather than writing with traditional pen and paper.