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Here's a better reason; speech has value, some less than others, a feedback mechanism allowing the audience to make a judgement on how much value a given piece

Here's a better reason; speech has value, some less than others, a feedback mechanism allowing the audience to make a judgement on how much value a given piece has is no more evidence for the innate psychopathy of men than a mute button on a TV remote or an install of adblocker is.

rokhayakebe 12y ago
Last statement on this subject: I will just hold it that I do not agree with all of you and see it as violent. That you do not see as such scares the living crap out of me. Your idea of mute is to downvote, not ignoring a commentator, someone else's idea is just more physical, but ideologically similar.
- icebraining 12y ago
  I think I know what you mean. Your comments remind me if an excerpt from a Situationist work, The Revolution of Everyday Life (by Raoul Vaneigem): "an obscene hobbling rhythm. In the ebb and flow of the crowds sucked in and crushed together by the coming and going of suburban trains, and coughed out into streets, offices, factories, there is nothing but timid retreats, brutal attacks, smirking faces and scratches delivered for no apparent reason. Soured by unwanted encounters, wine turns to vinegar in the mouth. Innocent and good-natured crowds? What a laugh! Look how they bristle up, threaten on every side, clumsy and embarrassed in the enemy's territory, far, very far from themselves. Lacking knives, they learn to use their elbows and their eyes." http://library.nothingness.org/articles/SI/en/pub_contents/5 http://library.nothingness.org/articles/SI/en/pub_contents/5
- sliverstorm 12y ago
  So basically, moderation of a forum of discussion is nothing other than an embodiment of bloodlust.
- etherael 12y ago
  You might have a point if you apply those arguments to actual censorship rather than expressed disagreement or disinterest. Even there though, to say that censorship should be seen as violence obscures more than illuminates.

rokhayakebe 12y ago

Last statement on this subject: I will just hold it that I do not agree with all of you and see it as violent. That you do not see as such scares the living crap out of me. Your idea of mute is to downvote, not ignoring a commentator, someone else's idea is just more physical, but ideologically similar.

icebraining 12y ago
I think I know what you mean. Your comments remind me if an excerpt from a Situationist work, The Revolution of Everyday Life (by Raoul Vaneigem): "an obscene hobbling rhythm. In the ebb and flow of the crowds sucked in and crushed together by the coming and going of suburban trains, and coughed out into streets, offices, factories, there is nothing but timid retreats, brutal attacks, smirking faces and scratches delivered for no apparent reason. Soured by unwanted encounters, wine turns to vinegar in the mouth. Innocent and good-natured crowds? What a laugh! Look how they bristle up, threaten on every side, clumsy and embarrassed in the enemy's territory, far, very far from themselves. Lacking knives, they learn to use their elbows and their eyes." http://library.nothingness.org/articles/SI/en/pub_contents/5 http://library.nothingness.org/articles/SI/en/pub_contents/5
sliverstorm 12y ago
So basically, moderation of a forum of discussion is nothing other than an embodiment of bloodlust.
etherael 12y ago
You might have a point if you apply those arguments to actual censorship rather than expressed disagreement or disinterest. Even there though, to say that censorship should be seen as violence obscures more than illuminates.