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Project Gutenberg bans anonymisers, proxies, VPNs and Tor

19 points by ch215 12y ago

coding4all 12y ago
It's interesting to see one of my favorite sites doing this. There's always https://openlibrary.org/ https://openlibrary.org/ which is ran by https://archive.org/ https://archive.org/ . I imagine Open Library has many of the same books.
gumby 12y ago
Why don't they explain why they have these restrictions? Their books are all in the public domain so what difference could it possibly make who downloads them? The 24 hour download limit could possibly be defensible if they explained it -- for example they might encourage you to cache a copy of a book you'd like rather than refetch it every time. But they don't bother to explain. I agree with coding4all: avoid this crap by simply going to the Internet Archive.
- deleted 12y ago
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- jcrawfordor 12y ago
  I suspect they just have a small amount of money and a large amount of load. You have to do something to try to keep load manageable while still serving the most users.
BrindsleyQuives 12y ago
Fuck Project Gutnberg. Bunch of self-important dicks. I remember once downloading a short story from there that weighed in at 160+ pages on my eReader. The actual story was around 50 pages. The rest was Project Gutnberg's terms and conditions and 'own trumpet blowing' about how fucking brilliant they were for making available a load of copyright expired wank you could find in a million other places online.
zokier 12y ago
Interestingly enough they have a link to Tor hidden service in their ToS: http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Terms_of_Use http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Terms_of_Use > If you think that TOR gives you the anonymity you want, go here for a hidden mirror of our text files: http://libraryhvopfiqnp.onion/gutenberg/ http://libraryhvopfiqnp.onion/gutenberg/
- asdasdsad 12y ago
  quote from the onion link :-DD At the moment this server only mirrors PoC||GTFO.
walterbell 12y ago
Project Gitenberg: http://gitenberg.github.io http://gitenberg.github.io
- jsilence 12y ago
  Would be nice to see a decent webinterface hosted nowhere by zeronet [1] serving torrent magnet links of individual books or small collections. That way a free library of public domain books could be hosted without server costs by the people for the people.
  - walterbell 12y ago
    Thanks for the pointer to zeronet, https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet
asdasdsad 12y ago
Eric Schmidt said in an interview once that once you have access to entire worlds knowledge governments would like to know who you are
- anta40 12y ago
  Interesting quote. Where can I find this interview (website/youtube/etc) ?
  - asdasdsad 12y ago
    unfortunately I could not find it again it was newspaper like Atlantic or something like that maybe it was censorship.

19 points by ch215 12y ago

It's interesting to see one of my favorite sites doing this. There's always https://openlibrary.org/ https://openlibrary.org/ which is ran by https://archive.org/ https://archive.org/ . I imagine Open Library has many of the same books.

gumby 12y ago

Why don't they explain why they have these restrictions? Their books are all in the public domain so what difference could it possibly make who downloads them? The 24 hour download limit could possibly be defensible if they explained it -- for example they might encourage you to cache a copy of a book you'd like rather than refetch it every time. But they don't bother to explain. I agree with coding4all: avoid this crap by simply going to the Internet Archive.

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jcrawfordor 12y ago
I suspect they just have a small amount of money and a large amount of load. You have to do something to try to keep load manageable while still serving the most users.

BrindsleyQuives 12y ago

Fuck Project Gutnberg. Bunch of self-important dicks. I remember once downloading a short story from there that weighed in at 160+ pages on my eReader. The actual story was around 50 pages. The rest was Project Gutnberg's terms and conditions and 'own trumpet blowing' about how fucking brilliant they were for making available a load of copyright expired wank you could find in a million other places online.

zokier 12y ago

Interestingly enough they have a link to Tor hidden service in their ToS: http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Terms_of_Use http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:Terms_of_Use > If you think that TOR gives you the anonymity you want, go here for a hidden mirror of our text files: http://libraryhvopfiqnp.onion/gutenberg/ http://libraryhvopfiqnp.onion/gutenberg/

asdasdsad 12y ago
quote from the onion link :-DD At the moment this server only mirrors PoC||GTFO.

walterbell 12y ago

Project Gitenberg: http://gitenberg.github.io http://gitenberg.github.io

jsilence 12y ago
Would be nice to see a decent webinterface hosted nowhere by zeronet [1] serving torrent magnet links of individual books or small collections. That way a free library of public domain books could be hosted without server costs by the people for the people.
- walterbell 12y ago
  Thanks for the pointer to zeronet, https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet https://github.com/HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet

asdasdsad 12y ago

Eric Schmidt said in an interview once that once you have access to entire worlds knowledge governments would like to know who you are

anta40 12y ago
Interesting quote. Where can I find this interview (website/youtube/etc) ?
- asdasdsad 12y ago
  unfortunately I could not find it again it was newspaper like Atlantic or something like that maybe it was censorship.