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> there is nothing surprising about the US spying on the EU and vice versa Yes, the comforting normality of the cold war between the US and everybody else. Jus
by stefantalpalaru 12y ago
> there is nothing surprising about the US spying on the EU and vice versa
Yes, the comforting normality of the cold war between the US and everybody else. Just don't be surprised when US products and services become a target of widespread boycotts around the world.
- dogma1138 12y agoThe same newspaper reported that Germany's BND had active wire taps on 2 US secretaries of state, (Hillary) Clinton and Kerry, as well heavily spying on NATO members like Turkey. Snowden's own documents showed many EU countries (including all of the enlightened Nordic ones) who actively supported the US spying in order to gain intelligence on their own citizens and on other EU members, heck Denmark joined the NSA programme to spy on freaking Belgium. The harsh truth is that everyone spies, even Iceland has some dude in an office some where who's in charge of their intelligence gathering. The means and effectiveness vary between nations but considering that the UK, Germany and France have intelligence services which are considered amongst of the best in the world only a fool would write this off as some US fling due to post cold war PTSD.
- hox 12y agoYou are living with blinders on if you don't think every state in the world has espionage programs for both offensive and defensive purposes.
- nitrogen 12y agoYou are living with blinders on if you expect the civilians most harmed by these programs to stay silent and subservient.