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What is unethical? What are they funding? Why the emotive language? Who are you or the EFF to say that it is anybody's business to know about two other third pa

by sbuk 12y ago

What is unethical? What are they funding? Why the emotive language? Who are you or the EFF to say that it is anybody's business to know about two other third parties agreements? What difference will it make to consumers to know what the contract stipulates?

Retra 12y ago
>What is unethical? What are they funding? That's exactly what the consumer wants to know. They are funding whatever is stipulated in those contracts. >Who are you or the EFF to say that it is anybody's business I am me, and I say what is my business.
- ctdonath 12y ago
  Then work out a contract with the other two. If they don't agree to your terms, then it literally is not your business.
  - Retra 12y ago
    Attempting to establishing a legal obligation to share information is pretty much that, I would think. Seems like that's the whole point of a democracy, no? To allow the people to make things their business? I mean, if Apple doesn't want their contracts (which are enforced by democratic American law) to be the business of the American people, then maybe they should leave the country.
    - sbuk 12y ago
      "Attempting to establishing a legal obligation to share information is pretty much that, I would think. Seems like that's the whole point of a democracy, no? To allow the people to make things their business?" No! Absolutely not!!! How is that any different from the asinine mutterings of David Cameron over data encryption? Freedom of speech does not give you the right to no my, or anyone else's business. What about freedom of privacy? "I mean, if Apple doesn't want their contracts (which are enforced by democratic American law) to be the business of the American people, then maybe they should leave the country." So you agree that the NSA is right to snoop on the citizens of the US? It's exactly the same thing.
- sbuk 12y ago
  "I am me, and I say what is my business." Wow.

by sbuk 12y ago

Retra 12y ago

>What is unethical? What are they funding? That's exactly what the consumer wants to know. They are funding whatever is stipulated in those contracts. >Who are you or the EFF to say that it is anybody's business I am me, and I say what is my business.

ctdonath 12y ago
Then work out a contract with the other two. If they don't agree to your terms, then it literally is not your business.
- Retra 12y ago
  Attempting to establishing a legal obligation to share information is pretty much that, I would think. Seems like that's the whole point of a democracy, no? To allow the people to make things their business? I mean, if Apple doesn't want their contracts (which are enforced by democratic American law) to be the business of the American people, then maybe they should leave the country.
  - sbuk 12y ago
    "Attempting to establishing a legal obligation to share information is pretty much that, I would think. Seems like that's the whole point of a democracy, no? To allow the people to make things their business?" No! Absolutely not!!! How is that any different from the asinine mutterings of David Cameron over data encryption? Freedom of speech does not give you the right to no my, or anyone else's business. What about freedom of privacy? "I mean, if Apple doesn't want their contracts (which are enforced by democratic American law) to be the business of the American people, then maybe they should leave the country." So you agree that the NSA is right to snoop on the citizens of the US? It's exactly the same thing.
sbuk 12y ago
"I am me, and I say what is my business." Wow.