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It's funny, I actually upgraded to 5.0.1 stock from Cyanogen 11 (4.4.4) because the phone portion stopped working in 4.4.4. Haven't had any issues with calls si

It's funny, I actually upgraded to 5.0.1 stock from Cyanogen 11 (4.4.4) because the phone portion stopped working in 4.4.4. Haven't had any issues with calls since then. Now I'm worried that it'll suddenly go south again :( Nexus 4 is clearly the red-headed stepchild in the Nexus family now. If there was a newer Nexus that wasn't the size of an iPad, I'd upgrade; but there isn't. Call me old-fashioned, but I don't like holding War and Peace against my ear to talk on a phone.

Touche 12y ago
The newer versions aren't much better. The Nexus 9 is the worst Nexus device I've ever owned. First it had a rotation-not-working issue that they never acknowledged, then there is a major battery charge problem (mine takes 7 hours+ to charge. That's a full work day) that they also do not acknowledge
morganvachon 12y ago
> If there was a newer Nexus that wasn't the size of an iPad, I'd upgrade; but there isn't. The Nexus 5 isn't that much bigger than the 4, and certainly isn't as big as the Nexus 6. It's also not nearly as expensive as the 6. Size comparison of the 5 and 4 (from the left, respectively): http://newlaunches.com/archives/google-nexus-5-competition-comparison.php http://newlaunches.com/archives/google-nexus-5-competition-c...
- baggachipz 12y ago
  Eh, I suppose you're right. But this entire thread has me pretty concerned, as the Nexus 5 is already "old" in Google's eyes.
  - morganvachon 12y ago
    If you must have Android, you should look at the Moto G. It's inexpensive, has a small (by today's standards) 4.5" screen, and is fairly powerful for the price. I'm not a Motorola fan in general, but I think they have a solid phone with this one.
- classicsnoot 12y ago
  I really like my N5, and i have been enjoying Lollipop as a user experience. I use ADW launcher and keep my device very trim in terms of apps; the only niggling issue currently is that TextSecure does not receive group texts from iTards when WiFi is enabled, but they are aware of the problem so it is a m00t point. It bears consideration that the N5 is not carried by Verison [CDMA].
  - morganvachon 12y ago
    > It bears consideration that the N5 is not carried by Verison [CDMA]. The Nexus 5 does actually have a CDMA radio and works well on Sprint and its MVNOs. The problem is that Verizon won't list it as an approved device in their database, which means it won't provision for them. From what I understand, it's a control issue, not a technical issue; they can't get carrier exclusivity with an unlocked Nexus phone so they don't want it on their network. In short, the problem is Verizon, not the radio in the phone.
    - classicsnoot 12y ago
      Thank you for explaining that. I am on Tmobz and their customer service has been exceptional to date (which is why i left Verizon) but i miss the connectivity as i travel in rural areas a fair amount. Seeing as the hardware is there, is it theoretically possible to jigger the channels (technical term) and use an N5 on Verizon?
      - morganvachon 12y ago
        I don't think approaching it from a radio standpoint would help, since it's simply a matter of Verizon choosing deliberately not to provision the phone. For extra coverage while traveling, you could order a SIM from Ting[1] (a Sprint MVNO that I've used and really enjoyed), and switch to it for coverage on Sprint's LTE network; they fully support the Nexus 5. It's not as expansive as Verizon's network, but from my experience it tends to fill in the gaps left by T-Mobile. I say that because my service is with Straight Talk on T-Mobile's network, and my wife's phone is on Ting. Everywhere I don't have coverage, she does, and vice versa. Ting charges a base price of $6 per month per device, then charges for metered usage. My wife uses about 800 MB of data, about 80 minutes of calls, and about 300 texts per month, and her bill comes in at under $40 per month. I won't pretend to know your travel itinerary, but if all you do is order the SIM and activate it once every few months, you're probably looking at less than $70 per year to have the convenience of extra coverage when you need it. Or, you could forgo all of that and go back to Verizon on a Moto X, it's the closest you'll get to a Nexus device on that network, but then you're back in user-hostile support territory. [1] https://ting.com/shop/microsim https://ting.com/shop/microsim
Torgo 12y ago
>Nexus 4 is clearly the red-headed stepchild in the Nexus family now. I'm on Verizon Galaxy Nexus. If Nexus 4 is the red-headed stepchild, Verizon Galaxy Nexus is the kid chained in the basement nobody talks about :-/

Touche 12y ago

The newer versions aren't much better. The Nexus 9 is the worst Nexus device I've ever owned. First it had a rotation-not-working issue that they never acknowledged, then there is a major battery charge problem (mine takes 7 hours+ to charge. That's a full work day) that they also do not acknowledge

morganvachon 12y ago

> If there was a newer Nexus that wasn't the size of an iPad, I'd upgrade; but there isn't. The Nexus 5 isn't that much bigger than the 4, and certainly isn't as big as the Nexus 6. It's also not nearly as expensive as the 6. Size comparison of the 5 and 4 (from the left, respectively): http://newlaunches.com/archives/google-nexus-5-competition-comparison.php http://newlaunches.com/archives/google-nexus-5-competition-c...

baggachipz 12y ago
Eh, I suppose you're right. But this entire thread has me pretty concerned, as the Nexus 5 is already "old" in Google's eyes.
- morganvachon 12y ago
  If you must have Android, you should look at the Moto G. It's inexpensive, has a small (by today's standards) 4.5" screen, and is fairly powerful for the price. I'm not a Motorola fan in general, but I think they have a solid phone with this one.
classicsnoot 12y ago
I really like my N5, and i have been enjoying Lollipop as a user experience. I use ADW launcher and keep my device very trim in terms of apps; the only niggling issue currently is that TextSecure does not receive group texts from iTards when WiFi is enabled, but they are aware of the problem so it is a m00t point. It bears consideration that the N5 is not carried by Verison [CDMA].
- morganvachon 12y ago
  > It bears consideration that the N5 is not carried by Verison [CDMA]. The Nexus 5 does actually have a CDMA radio and works well on Sprint and its MVNOs. The problem is that Verizon won't list it as an approved device in their database, which means it won't provision for them. From what I understand, it's a control issue, not a technical issue; they can't get carrier exclusivity with an unlocked Nexus phone so they don't want it on their network. In short, the problem is Verizon, not the radio in the phone.
  - classicsnoot 12y ago
    Thank you for explaining that. I am on Tmobz and their customer service has been exceptional to date (which is why i left Verizon) but i miss the connectivity as i travel in rural areas a fair amount. Seeing as the hardware is there, is it theoretically possible to jigger the channels (technical term) and use an N5 on Verizon?
    - morganvachon 12y ago
      I don't think approaching it from a radio standpoint would help, since it's simply a matter of Verizon choosing deliberately not to provision the phone. For extra coverage while traveling, you could order a SIM from Ting[1] (a Sprint MVNO that I've used and really enjoyed), and switch to it for coverage on Sprint's LTE network; they fully support the Nexus 5. It's not as expansive as Verizon's network, but from my experience it tends to fill in the gaps left by T-Mobile. I say that because my service is with Straight Talk on T-Mobile's network, and my wife's phone is on Ting. Everywhere I don't have coverage, she does, and vice versa. Ting charges a base price of $6 per month per device, then charges for metered usage. My wife uses about 800 MB of data, about 80 minutes of calls, and about 300 texts per month, and her bill comes in at under $40 per month. I won't pretend to know your travel itinerary, but if all you do is order the SIM and activate it once every few months, you're probably looking at less than $70 per year to have the convenience of extra coverage when you need it. Or, you could forgo all of that and go back to Verizon on a Moto X, it's the closest you'll get to a Nexus device on that network, but then you're back in user-hostile support territory. [1] https://ting.com/shop/microsim https://ting.com/shop/microsim

Torgo 12y ago

>Nexus 4 is clearly the red-headed stepchild in the Nexus family now. I'm on Verizon Galaxy Nexus. If Nexus 4 is the red-headed stepchild, Verizon Galaxy Nexus is the kid chained in the basement nobody talks about :-/