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That, in a nutshell, is one of Photoshop's great strengths. It's not that you can save undo data, but that most things don't need to be undone if you take advan

That, in a nutshell, is one of Photoshop's great strengths. It's not that you can save undo data, but that most things don't need to be undone if you take advantage of smart objects (decomposable composites, more or less) and adjustment layers. Even deformation meshes (warps, liquify, etc.) can be stored, changed and re-applied (to multiple things, including masks). I'm not really committed to anything in Ps until I export, and then the PSD is still there if the client wants a change. I know that colour management and bit depth have been at the top of a lot of lists (and rightly so), but if anyone wants to step up and challenge Ps as the professional tool, then non-destructive editing is not optional.

boudewijnrempt 12y ago
Krita has had filter layers (non-destructive, mask + filter layers right inside the layer stack) since _2005_. Krita has had color management, with icc profiles and cmyk, rgb, lab and xyz since 2005. OpenColorIO based color management since 2012. Krita 2.9 has non-destructive transform masks -- and 2.9 is in beta right now. You can have selections masks local to a layer. There have been group layers for a decade. So, yeah, non-destructive editing is not optional. It's been around for about ten years, in Krita.
- stan_rogers 12y ago
  So, only a little behind. I'm not knocking Krita, nor am I saying that Ps is beyond reach and will forever be the standard. I welcome real competition, because frankly there hasn't been anything close enough in far too long. And much of what has gotten pretty close has thrown the third-party ecosystem overboard without replacement -- which may in some cases be necessary, but when you tell people that their "one hour's work in a click" time-savers are going away, they're not going to be impressed with what you've done to their workflow and profitability.

boudewijnrempt 12y ago

Krita has had filter layers (non-destructive, mask + filter layers right inside the layer stack) since _2005_. Krita has had color management, with icc profiles and cmyk, rgb, lab and xyz since 2005. OpenColorIO based color management since 2012. Krita 2.9 has non-destructive transform masks -- and 2.9 is in beta right now. You can have selections masks local to a layer. There have been group layers for a decade. So, yeah, non-destructive editing is not optional. It's been around for about ten years, in Krita.

stan_rogers 12y ago
So, only a little behind. I'm not knocking Krita, nor am I saying that Ps is beyond reach and will forever be the standard. I welcome real competition, because frankly there hasn't been anything close enough in far too long. And much of what has gotten pretty close has thrown the third-party ecosystem overboard without replacement -- which may in some cases be necessary, but when you tell people that their "one hour's work in a click" time-savers are going away, they're not going to be impressed with what you've done to their workflow and profitability.