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Switzerland has something like 1/2 trillion in foreign currency reserves built up while trying to keep the franc at parity, putting them in a risky position. I

Switzerland has something like 1/2 trillion in foreign currency reserves built up while trying to keep the franc at parity, putting them in a risky position. I think they were preparing for today - they recently lowered interest rates to negative, and now today dropped them even more negative. Funny anecdote - the last time this happened around 3 or 4 years ago I was on a project in Germany and was surprised at how cheap everything was now with the exchange rate. Dining out felt like I was in India it was so cheap. We bought an Audi (in CHF) around then and they had to reduce the price 30% before the deal went through - then shortly after they pegged the franc to the euro. Now hopefully the foreigners will start moving their money back into francs and let the property market cool off.

michaelcampbell 12y ago
> they recently lowered interest rates to negative, and now today dropped them even more negative. How does this not cause a run on the banks? (Serious question)
- comrade1 12y ago
  It's the rate on bank-to-bank borrowing (basically, the rate banks pay to borrow money from the central bank). But also the franc is like gold - people move their money to the franc for stability and so there's always external demand.
- FracMat 12y ago
  Only the interest rates on money borrowed from the swiss national bank (which only other banks can use) are affected. This will keep the interest rate you get for your private account close or equal to zero, but they will not get below that margin for exactly the reason that people will withdraw their money.
- pjc50 12y ago
  The average depositor is not paying negative rates: http://www.ubs.com/ch/en/swissbank/private/interests.html http://www.ubs.com/ch/en/swissbank/private/interests.html There is obviously a limit as to how negative the SNB can push the interbank rate, but if you see it as the "convenience fee" for keeping and moving large amounts of money in the central bank versus trying to hold it and transport it as cash it makes more sense.
- dola 12y ago
  It's the rate banks have to pay to deposit Swiss Francs with the Swiss National Bank. Many Swiss Banks however do invest their assets differently (higher risk) and therefore the people in Switzerland with private accounts are not affected directly. This is mostly to avoid foreign banks to invest in Swiss Francs.
- sschueller 12y ago
  The only run on ATMs* and banks is to get cheap euros as long as still possible. *ATMs here will give you Swiss Francs or Euros.

michaelcampbell 12y ago

> they recently lowered interest rates to negative, and now today dropped them even more negative. How does this not cause a run on the banks? (Serious question)

comrade1 12y ago
It's the rate on bank-to-bank borrowing (basically, the rate banks pay to borrow money from the central bank). But also the franc is like gold - people move their money to the franc for stability and so there's always external demand.
FracMat 12y ago
Only the interest rates on money borrowed from the swiss national bank (which only other banks can use) are affected. This will keep the interest rate you get for your private account close or equal to zero, but they will not get below that margin for exactly the reason that people will withdraw their money.
pjc50 12y ago
The average depositor is not paying negative rates: http://www.ubs.com/ch/en/swissbank/private/interests.html http://www.ubs.com/ch/en/swissbank/private/interests.html There is obviously a limit as to how negative the SNB can push the interbank rate, but if you see it as the "convenience fee" for keeping and moving large amounts of money in the central bank versus trying to hold it and transport it as cash it makes more sense.
dola 12y ago
It's the rate banks have to pay to deposit Swiss Francs with the Swiss National Bank. Many Swiss Banks however do invest their assets differently (higher risk) and therefore the people in Switzerland with private accounts are not affected directly. This is mostly to avoid foreign banks to invest in Swiss Francs.
sschueller 12y ago
The only run on ATMs* and banks is to get cheap euros as long as still possible. *ATMs here will give you Swiss Francs or Euros.