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“[The Dread Pirate Roberts] is someone who studiously avoided revealing his identity to anyone on the site…This same person goes to a public library and uses a

“[The Dread Pirate Roberts] is someone who studiously avoided revealing his identity to anyone on the site…This same person goes to a public library and uses a public Wifi connection?” Dratel asked the jury. “That Ross is DPR is a contradiction so fundamental that it defies common sense.” I guess they're hoping the jury and prosecutors don't know what a VPN is, or, you know, Tor...

palmer_eldritch 12y ago
I'm wondering how they're going to explain that when he was arrested he had an open chat window where he was having a discussion as DPR with an undercover agent and was logged in SR as an admin. Maybe in their next move they'll try saying the FBI helped the real DPR in framing him.
- caractacus 12y ago
  Apparently, he founded the site, set it running very successfully, left, and was then cunningly lured back by those then in charge solely to be the fall guy for the Fed investigation.
  - pyre 12y ago
    Is this the actual defence plan or just some rumour on the net?
    - davidgerard 12y ago
      This is, against all sanity, Ulbricht's actual defence plan. http://www.wired.com/2015/01/isilk-road-trial-opening-statements/ http://www.wired.com/2015/01/isilk-road-trial-opening-statem...
    - davidgerard 12y ago
      And holy crap, just in from Twitter: https://twitter.com/kari_paul/status/555820627907846144 https://twitter.com/kari_paul/status/555820627907846144 "Defense in Silk Road trial arguing Mark Karpeles, CEO of Bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox, was the real mastermind behind Silk Road." What the shitting Christ. EDIT: Daily Dot has a court report: http://www.dailydot.com/crime/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-mark-karpales-fbi/ http://www.dailydot.com/crime/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-mark-k... The DHS seriously considered it likely Karpeles was involved in Silk Road.
  - FireBeyond 12y ago
    So many people conflate 'reasonable doubt' with 'any doubt'. Is this possible? Sure. Reasonable? A lot less so.
brohee 12y ago
I'm almost sorry for him if that's the best lawyer he could get...
- coldcode 12y ago
  Dread Lawyer Roberts.
  - jayess 12y ago
    Lawyers have to deal with the client they're handed. If the client doesn't want to plea, you have to do your best.
- davidgerard 12y ago
  You get the client you have, not the one you'd like. Call it an "opportunity to excel." If he can get Ulbricht not thrown into a deep dark hole ... I fully expect the lawyer's palm is permanently attached to his face.
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tedunangst 12y ago
It's literally the Reiser defense. "If I did it, you wouldn't have caught me. You caught me, therefore I didn't do it." Historically, a low success rate.

palmer_eldritch 12y ago

I'm wondering how they're going to explain that when he was arrested he had an open chat window where he was having a discussion as DPR with an undercover agent and was logged in SR as an admin. Maybe in their next move they'll try saying the FBI helped the real DPR in framing him.

caractacus 12y ago
Apparently, he founded the site, set it running very successfully, left, and was then cunningly lured back by those then in charge solely to be the fall guy for the Fed investigation.
- pyre 12y ago
  Is this the actual defence plan or just some rumour on the net?
  - davidgerard 12y ago
    This is, against all sanity, Ulbricht's actual defence plan. http://www.wired.com/2015/01/isilk-road-trial-opening-statements/ http://www.wired.com/2015/01/isilk-road-trial-opening-statem...
  - davidgerard 12y ago
    And holy crap, just in from Twitter: https://twitter.com/kari_paul/status/555820627907846144 https://twitter.com/kari_paul/status/555820627907846144 "Defense in Silk Road trial arguing Mark Karpeles, CEO of Bitcoin exchange Mt. Gox, was the real mastermind behind Silk Road." What the shitting Christ. EDIT: Daily Dot has a court report: http://www.dailydot.com/crime/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-mark-karpales-fbi/ http://www.dailydot.com/crime/ross-ulbricht-silk-road-mark-k... The DHS seriously considered it likely Karpeles was involved in Silk Road.
- FireBeyond 12y ago
  So many people conflate 'reasonable doubt' with 'any doubt'. Is this possible? Sure. Reasonable? A lot less so.

brohee 12y ago

I'm almost sorry for him if that's the best lawyer he could get...

coldcode 12y ago
Dread Lawyer Roberts.
- jayess 12y ago
  Lawyers have to deal with the client they're handed. If the client doesn't want to plea, you have to do your best.
davidgerard 12y ago
You get the client you have, not the one you'd like. Call it an "opportunity to excel." If he can get Ulbricht not thrown into a deep dark hole ... I fully expect the lawyer's palm is permanently attached to his face.

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tedunangst 12y ago

It's literally the Reiser defense. "If I did it, you wouldn't have caught me. You caught me, therefore I didn't do it." Historically, a low success rate.