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It's entirely dependent upon both the difficulty and the relative risk of the climb. The Edge at Tahquitz Rock [1], at "merely" 5.11a (R) has seen far fewer asc
by steveax 12y ago
It's entirely dependent upon both the difficulty and the relative risk of the climb. The Edge at Tahquitz Rock [1], at "merely" 5.11a (R) has seen far fewer ascents than most 5.14 climbs. Similarly, the Bachar-Yerian at 5.11c (X) [2], it's seen, what, < 30 ascents?
[1] http://www.mountainproject.com/v/the-edge/106105353 http://www.mountainproject.com/v/the-edge/106105353
[2] http://www.mountainproject.com/v/bachar-yerian/106244878 http://www.mountainproject.com/v/bachar-yerian/106244878
EDIT: good account of a repeat of the B-Y here:
http://www.supertopo.com/tr/The-Bachar-Yerian-A-Three-Year-Obsession-Comes-to-a-Close/t12145n.html http://www.supertopo.com/tr/The-Bachar-Yerian-A-Three-Year-O...
- freerobby 12y agoYes, good point. I would certainly lead a 5.14 knowing I'd fall before I'd lead a 5.11 with a 40' runout. :) To answer beachstartup's question though, I'd say confidently that all else being equal, a 5.14 climber is more elite than a 5.11 climber who has good mental fortitude.
- sandworm 12y agoHigh grades create assents. Put up a new 11c and nobody will take notice, it won't get much traffic as any new route today is probably out of the way. But claim a new 5.14 or 5.15 and the elites will appear, if perhaps only to prove you wrong about the rating.
- snowwrestler 12y agoBachar-Yerian and The Edge are very, very famous routes, though. These are not typical anonymous mid-grade local multipitches.