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From Andrew Sorkins' commentary on: http://dealbook.nytimes.com//2013/10/21/economic-theory-via-youtube-and-cartoon/?_r=0 http://dealbook.nytimes.com//2013/10/2
by dj-wonk 12y ago
From Andrew Sorkins' commentary on: http://dealbook.nytimes.com//2013/10/21/economic-theory-via-youtube-and-cartoon/?_r=0 http://dealbook.nytimes.com//2013/10/21/economic-theory-via-...
> [Ray Dalio] dispenses with the way economists have long taught economics in school, and instead explains the economy as if it were a “machine” that he believes is much easier to understand and predict.
"Dispenses", really? Dalio is no small force [1], but his thoughts and models are, in some sense, just "another" model to add to the mix.
[1]: http://www.economist.com/node/21549968 http://www.economist.com/node/21549968
Here, my point is not to support or detract from Dalio's model. My point is simply that many people (and many journalists) don't seem to get what models are, at their core. They are tools.
Yes, sometimes traditional economic models get "too much" credit and mindshare. I like seeing alternative models. After taking a look at Dalio's snappy presentation, connecting almost everything with a nice explanation, I really miss an academic presentation, with equations. (I'm not saying Dalio doesn't have them -- Bridgewater Associates certainly does.)
Both in the case of this presentation and in many mainstream accounts, the language commonly used in economic models sometimes lulls readers/listeners/viewers into conflating the model with reality. Don't let it. The world is complicated. If you want to force a complicated world into a simple model, you can, with varying results.
Here is my central point. Everyone, including all flavors of economists and Dalio himself, are peddling models. Don't let their claims of being "simple" and "mechanical" distract you. (Some people claim the opposite, e.g. "my complex model is the most realistic".) People will accentuate any aspect of their model. Like any good salesperson or marketer, they will find the words that engender trust.
(In modeling-speak, modelers often seek to build models that their audience will find intuitive. Models that are too non-intuitive, in their assumptions at least, sometimes get quickly discarded. Models with intuitive low-level behavior and non-intuitive higher-level behavior often garner a lot of attention, because they are deemed to be believable but surprising.)
What makes a good model? That's a long conversation. For now, I'll just say this: use some model(s) that are useful for your situation. It is obvious, but you'd be amazed how few people take this advice to heart. Perhaps they want the "best" model, which is akin to asking for the "best" car. In practice, many people go with the most familiar model, though many don't like to admit it.
I'm not saying models are bad. I am saying two main things:
1. If you are using numbers (even rough ones) and seriously think that you aren't using a model, you are fooling yourself. I'll give three examples where people pretend that they aren't using a model:
1A. If you are shooting from the hip, then you are using an unspecified, perhaps instinctual, probably non-repeatable, model.
1B. If you are "just doing the numbers" then your choice of what numbers to include is your model.
1C. If you are doing "theory-free" data mining, then you are still relying on some technique(s) to surface certain patterns. Ok, so you might not be using a specified model (such as linear regression with particular variables), but how did you select your variables? If you are using a SVM, what kernel are you using? If you are using a NN, how many layers and what configuration? These are still assumptions. Your choice of technique (and preference for bias vs. variance) will shape what patterns you find.
2. Relying on too few models is foolish.
- cbd1984 12y agoI don't understand how this video represents a departure from standard macroeconomic thinking. He presents the business cycle, with a boom as an inflationary period and a bust as a deflationary one leading into recessions, the idea of credit creating debt which can be an asset, a very simplified version of the role of the central bank (really, it's all very simplified, it's only a half-hour), and, most importantly, a complete lack of the insanity I'm used to seeing in discussions of economics. In short, he might not be precisely the exact flavor of Keynesian which is in favor now, but he's obviously not a Marxist, an Austrian Schooler, a goldbug, an anarcho-whatever-you're-not, or any other variety of Flat Earther, so he seems fairly mainstream. So he's presenting basically sound ideas (as opposed to "Sovereign debt is just like household debt" or "Gold is the only honest money" or "Bankers are pure evil class war villains" or "All government is bad") in a very accessible format. His models are simple, maybe even simplistic, but they're close enough to the mainstream that people who are otherwise out of the loop should be able to follow the discussion intelligently, as opposed to being terrified out of their wits that the government debt is a bigger number than their mortgage.
- honeybooboo123 12y agoSpoken like a true sophist. So anything that's not mainstream is just as crazy as thinking that the earth is flat, huh? For example, it's decidedly mainstream to believe that ~2% inflation is a good thing, mostly because governments say so. But it's plain crazy to disagree, realizing that not a single sane person on earth actually wants his purchasing power to decrease, but that's exactly what the 2% inflation does to us.
- laichzeit0 12y ago> not a single sane person on earth actually wants his purchasing power to decrease As with all things in life, this is a tradeoff. I'm willing to concede decreasing purchasing power in exchange for some other advantage. Like I'm willing to exchange shitty battery life for a better and faster web browsing experience on my phone, or how I'm willing to exchange years off my life for some added pleasures like cigarettes and alcohol.