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This project's homepage uses the same template as iojs.org (https://iojs.org/ https://iojs.org/) and unfortunately also has the same problem: the front page say

by STRML 12y ago

This project's homepage uses the same template as iojs.org (https://iojs.org/ https://iojs.org/) and unfortunately also has the same problem: the front page says almost nothing about the project. What does "call Node.js modules directly from the DOM" mean? I write Node.js code, all day, every day, and I have for three years, and I have absolutely no idea what that means. NW.js appears to be some sort of "break" from node-webkit, and the copy on the main site seems to suggest that it is an entirely new project. The only useful link I see goes to a Google Groups post that says that node-webkit has been renamed to NW because it is neither Node nor Webkit. This is missing the point entirely. The tagline should be something lke: "NW.js is a runtime for building desktop applications using Web technologies. Like WebViews for iOS/Android, NW.js leverages the latest in web technologies (Chromium and io.js) to provide a complete platform for building fully-featured desktop applications using the same technologies used for the Web." Instead, the tagline seems to be advertising that I can check `process.browser` from inside a <script> tag. That's cool, but somewhat analogous to the tagline for Tesla's newest car saying that it "lets you change songs with voice commands". Nice feature, but doesn't explain the project at all. I put in a PR for the iojs.org site (https://github.com/iojs/iojs.github.io/pull/50 https://github.com/iojs/iojs.github.io/pull/50) which is garnering some good discussion but it doesn't appear that anyone is "in charge" so it may be a long time before any sort of major change is merged. Edit: Let me note that all of this is a shame because both of these projects (io.js and nw.js) are very exciting news for the Node community as a whole and are very well done projects! I don't mean to disparage the work of those teams whatsoever, they are doing a fantastic job.

acoyfellow 12y ago
This looks like a great opportunity for someone who is looking to get a gig for tech copywriting, which can be very lucrative. Somebody who has experience writing persuasive and informative copy, and can do a PR, you could have yourself a good resume piece :)
- deanclatworthy 12y ago
  A very interesting idea. Although there would not be much lucrative work within the OS community.
emocakes 12y ago
you guys whinge alot, it does what is says, that is, letting you call nodejs modules from the dom. if you dont get what it does by reading that, maybe you should give up on becoming a dev.
_greim_ 12y ago
People who can build amazing technologies, and people who can explain amazing technologies and make them accessible to a wider audience, are not always the same people. I think you're doing the right thing by creating PRs and helping that discussion along; I hope they listen and that the public-facing info improves. [edit] Not to say they're never the same people, just that to expect those two skills to always coincide is unreasonable, IMO.
mcantelon 12y ago
The io and NW sites were likely rushed to get something out there to correspond with the io release. My guess is they'll get things cleaned up in short order.
moondowner 12y ago
"NW.js appears to be some sort of "break" from node-webkit, and the copy on the main site seems to suggest that it is an entirely new project" It's seems that it's the same project. The GitHub page says: "node-webkit is renamed NW.js" https://github.com/nwjs/nw.js https://github.com/nwjs/nw.js
- STRML 12y ago
  Yep. Yet from the homepage copy, you'd think it's something new entirely. It's a very cool project regardless but it is still the same concept as node-webkit.
gkya 12y ago
Regarding that IO.js, it makes me giggle when the first question in FAQ is «What is this?». I have started hanging around the HN again nowadays, and this is the second link I'm commenting on and fourth or fifth one I have seen where the first one of the comments says «the website tells practically nothing». Also here, the link title (merely «NW.js» at the time I write this) also says nothing, and the linked page is annotated to be under construction. Heck, when presenting your project to the tech world shouldn't one be more cautious and more willing to make it be received better? I mean, just be a little bit more attentive before shouting out «Hey, this is a project I wish the public uses!».

by STRML 12y ago

acoyfellow 12y ago

This looks like a great opportunity for someone who is looking to get a gig for tech copywriting, which can be very lucrative. Somebody who has experience writing persuasive and informative copy, and can do a PR, you could have yourself a good resume piece :)

deanclatworthy 12y ago
A very interesting idea. Although there would not be much lucrative work within the OS community.

emocakes 12y ago

you guys whinge alot, it does what is says, that is, letting you call nodejs modules from the dom. if you dont get what it does by reading that, maybe you should give up on becoming a dev.

_greim_ 12y ago

People who can build amazing technologies, and people who can explain amazing technologies and make them accessible to a wider audience, are not always the same people. I think you're doing the right thing by creating PRs and helping that discussion along; I hope they listen and that the public-facing info improves. [edit] Not to say they're never the same people, just that to expect those two skills to always coincide is unreasonable, IMO.

mcantelon 12y ago

The io and NW sites were likely rushed to get something out there to correspond with the io release. My guess is they'll get things cleaned up in short order.

moondowner 12y ago

"NW.js appears to be some sort of "break" from node-webkit, and the copy on the main site seems to suggest that it is an entirely new project" It's seems that it's the same project. The GitHub page says: "node-webkit is renamed NW.js" https://github.com/nwjs/nw.js https://github.com/nwjs/nw.js

STRML 12y ago
Yep. Yet from the homepage copy, you'd think it's something new entirely. It's a very cool project regardless but it is still the same concept as node-webkit.

gkya 12y ago

Regarding that IO.js, it makes me giggle when the first question in FAQ is «What is this?». I have started hanging around the HN again nowadays, and this is the second link I'm commenting on and fourth or fifth one I have seen where the first one of the comments says «the website tells practically nothing». Also here, the link title (merely «NW.js» at the time I write this) also says nothing, and the linked page is annotated to be under construction. Heck, when presenting your project to the tech world shouldn't one be more cautious and more willing to make it be received better? I mean, just be a little bit more attentive before shouting out «Hey, this is a project I wish the public uses!».