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> instead of taking it out of the federal govt. budget Why is education for the citizens of a country considered something that a countries government should h

by mhurron 12y ago

> instead of taking it out of the federal govt. budget Why is education for the citizens of a country considered something that a countries government should have no part in in the US? If education really is something important for the country, would it not make more sense for the country to prioritize and fund it as opposed to leaving it to the whims of whomever feels like funding it that day?

danielweber 12y ago
If food really is something important for the country, would it not make more sense for the country to prioritize and fund it as opposed to leaving it to the whims of whomever feels like funding it that day? Most of the benefit of food is private: when I eat, I am no longer hungry. That means I take care of my food myself. Most of the benefit to education is, as well, private. If I become a lawyer, I capture most of the benefit. It's when the benefit cannot be internalized that you need government involved. A public good is one that is non-excludable and non-rivalrous. National defense and most environmental causes are examples there. Education is a private good, since it is both trivially excludable as well as (if you listen to any NEA paper about student-teacher ratios) rather rivalrous.
- ashark 12y ago
  > If food really is something important for the country, would it not make more sense for the country to prioritize and fund it as opposed to leaving it to the whims of whomever feels like funding it that day? We... do? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Agriculture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Ag... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_farm_bill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_farm_bill
- mhurron 12y ago
  Actually I support a guaranteed income so that (among other things) people can be sure to be able to feed themselves. It is in a nations best interest to not have a starving population. It is also in a nations best interests to have an educated population.
ahomescu1 12y ago
> Why is education for the citizens of a country considered something that a countries government should have no part in in the US? 10th Amendment says: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. If you follow this Amendment, the States are free to educate their citizens any way they want, it's just that the Federal government isn't allowed to (a good restriction, in my opinion, since competition usually increases quality).
icebraining 12y ago
Why is education for the citizens of a country considered something that a countries government should have no part in in the US? It's not that the government should have no part in education; an ancap believes "a countries government" shouldn't exist at all. That's the an(archo) in ancap.

by mhurron 12y ago

danielweber 12y ago

If food really is something important for the country, would it not make more sense for the country to prioritize and fund it as opposed to leaving it to the whims of whomever feels like funding it that day? Most of the benefit of food is private: when I eat, I am no longer hungry. That means I take care of my food myself. Most of the benefit to education is, as well, private. If I become a lawyer, I capture most of the benefit. It's when the benefit cannot be internalized that you need government involved. A public good is one that is non-excludable and non-rivalrous. National defense and most environmental causes are examples there. Education is a private good, since it is both trivially excludable as well as (if you listen to any NEA paper about student-teacher ratios) rather rivalrous.

ashark 12y ago
> If food really is something important for the country, would it not make more sense for the country to prioritize and fund it as opposed to leaving it to the whims of whomever feels like funding it that day? We... do? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Agriculture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Ag... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_farm_bill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_farm_bill
mhurron 12y ago
Actually I support a guaranteed income so that (among other things) people can be sure to be able to feed themselves. It is in a nations best interest to not have a starving population. It is also in a nations best interests to have an educated population.

ahomescu1 12y ago

> Why is education for the citizens of a country considered something that a countries government should have no part in in the US? 10th Amendment says: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. If you follow this Amendment, the States are free to educate their citizens any way they want, it's just that the Federal government isn't allowed to (a good restriction, in my opinion, since competition usually increases quality).

icebraining 12y ago

Why is education for the citizens of a country considered something that a countries government should have no part in in the US? It's not that the government should have no part in education; an ancap believes "a countries government" shouldn't exist at all. That's the an(archo) in ancap.