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>It's an empirical question that I don't know the answer to. Your argument appears to be confused as well as mildly racist. >Can you say with much confidence

>It's an empirical question that I don't know the answer to. Your argument appears to be confused as well as mildly racist. >Can you say with much confidence that allowing grinnbearit to enter the US would harm India? If he was educated by India I would say that there is a very high likelihood. India would lose its investment in his education. >You again ducked the question - if black Americans satisfy the same empirical criteria as Indians or Nigerians, should we treat them the same way? You mean if black Americans were actually Nigerians or citizens of some other African country should we restrict the issuance of H1Bs to them... Um, yes? Sorry, I didn't think that wasn't obvious. Same deal for Europeans. Obviously. Just in case you again assumed that I give some special consideration to being white (P.S. I'm European and I don't think I'm being done any great favors by having H1B as an option). >This makes me "racist as fuck"? Stating outright that black people would be better off shopping in black only shops makes you racist as fuck, yes. Hell, even just raising the possibility that it might be true implies racism. If I were you I would retract what I just said because it doesn't look at all good either in or out of context.

yummyfajitas 12y ago
You mean if black Americans were actually Nigerians... No. I asked if it is morally acceptable under any circumstances to treat a black American the way we treat Nigerians, by threatening them (or their employer) with violence for economic competition. And I'm wondering, if not, why not? I'm reasonably confident you knew this is what I'm asking. Hell, even just raising the possibility that it might be true implies racism. I'm confused. Uncertainty and admission that an empirical question can have multiple answers is racist?
- crdoconnor 12y ago
  >No. I asked if it is morally acceptable under any circumstances to treat a black American the way we treat Nigerians, by threatening them (or their employer) with violence for economic competition. And I'm wondering, if not, why not? Because they are citizens of the country born under the United States government, and thus should be afforded certain guarantees from that same government. Including a decently paid job. I think that Nigerians deserve the same guarantees from their country too. I don't believe that Nigeria owes American citizens a job, though. Or vice versa. Unfortunately to prevent the emergence of poverty, it is necessary for some employers to face an implicit threat of violence that restricts competition among workers. Minimum wage, etc. >I'm confused. Uncertainty and admission that an empirical question can have multiple answers is racist? You remind me of this amusing episode: http://foxnewsboycott.com/glenn-beck/glenn-beck-raped-and-murdered-a-girl-in-1990/ http://foxnewsboycott.com/glenn-beck/glenn-beck-raped-and-mu...

yummyfajitas 12y ago

You mean if black Americans were actually Nigerians... No. I asked if it is morally acceptable under any circumstances to treat a black American the way we treat Nigerians, by threatening them (or their employer) with violence for economic competition. And I'm wondering, if not, why not? I'm reasonably confident you knew this is what I'm asking. Hell, even just raising the possibility that it might be true implies racism. I'm confused. Uncertainty and admission that an empirical question can have multiple answers is racist?

crdoconnor 12y ago
>No. I asked if it is morally acceptable under any circumstances to treat a black American the way we treat Nigerians, by threatening them (or their employer) with violence for economic competition. And I'm wondering, if not, why not? Because they are citizens of the country born under the United States government, and thus should be afforded certain guarantees from that same government. Including a decently paid job. I think that Nigerians deserve the same guarantees from their country too. I don't believe that Nigeria owes American citizens a job, though. Or vice versa. Unfortunately to prevent the emergence of poverty, it is necessary for some employers to face an implicit threat of violence that restricts competition among workers. Minimum wage, etc. >I'm confused. Uncertainty and admission that an empirical question can have multiple answers is racist? You remind me of this amusing episode: http://foxnewsboycott.com/glenn-beck/glenn-beck-raped-and-murdered-a-girl-in-1990/ http://foxnewsboycott.com/glenn-beck/glenn-beck-raped-and-mu...