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>Apart from the nationalistic idea that anyone owes the State that controls the land they're born in by default, most of these H1B immigrants in these 3rd world

>Apart from the nationalistic idea that anyone owes the State that controls the land they're born in by default, most of these H1B immigrants in these 3rd world countries get very little government support Many get a lot, actually. Especially in ex-soviet countries. Many have excellent free education systems. >you wouldn't prevent any of "their" citizens from leaving would you? Of course not. Nonetheless, the idea that freedom of immigration is an unparalleled good for the country providing the immigrants simply because individually they are better off, should die already.

machinshin_ 12y ago
>> Apart from the nationalistic idea that anyone owes the State that controls the land they're born in by default, most of these H1B immigrants in these 3rd world countries get very little government support > Many get a lot, actually. Especially in ex-soviet > countries. Many have excellent free education systems. As the son of a poor indian who became a Fulbright scholar and came to the US for his Masters' degree & made a life here, i can say that at least in the case of India this isn't quite true. In India at least you had to fight the system tooth & nail to succeed. I suspect that's less true nowadays though
grinnbearit 12y ago
> Many get a lot, actually. Especially in ex-soviet countries. Many have excellent free education systems. Would you be ok with immigrants from countries where they don't? India provides very little in comparison and also has the highest percentage of H1B applicants. [1] > Of course not. Nonetheless, the idea that freedom of immigration is an unparalleled good for the country providing the immigrants simply because individually they are better off, should die already. Shouldn't the State make it more attractive for these citizens to stay there? Especially since they're so valuable? Why is it only the citizens who have this responsibility. [1] http://www.bloombergview.com/quicktake/skilled-immigrants http://www.bloombergview.com/quicktake/skilled-immigrants.

machinshin_ 12y ago

>> Apart from the nationalistic idea that anyone owes the State that controls the land they're born in by default, most of these H1B immigrants in these 3rd world countries get very little government support > Many get a lot, actually. Especially in ex-soviet > countries. Many have excellent free education systems. As the son of a poor indian who became a Fulbright scholar and came to the US for his Masters' degree & made a life here, i can say that at least in the case of India this isn't quite true. In India at least you had to fight the system tooth & nail to succeed. I suspect that's less true nowadays though

grinnbearit 12y ago

> Many get a lot, actually. Especially in ex-soviet countries. Many have excellent free education systems. Would you be ok with immigrants from countries where they don't? India provides very little in comparison and also has the highest percentage of H1B applicants. [1] > Of course not. Nonetheless, the idea that freedom of immigration is an unparalleled good for the country providing the immigrants simply because individually they are better off, should die already. Shouldn't the State make it more attractive for these citizens to stay there? Especially since they're so valuable? Why is it only the citizens who have this responsibility. [1] http://www.bloombergview.com/quicktake/skilled-immigrants http://www.bloombergview.com/quicktake/skilled-immigrants.