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Your approach sucks. Looks like your going around, hat in hand, looking for someone to give you a job. As if people owe you or something. Look for ways to help

Your approach sucks. Looks like your going around, hat in hand, looking for someone to give you a job. As if people owe you or something. Look for ways to help people. If you got big bad skills, prove it. Make people come to you.

grover_hartmann 12y ago
So when you go out and look for a job, do you also expect the job to come to you, or you go after the job? Nobody will give you a job on a silver platter. Contributing to open source is one thing, looking for a job is another one. Thanks for the advice though.
- playlist 12y ago
  You are the specialist. Tell prospective employers how you'll solve their problems. Come at it from a position of strength. In other words, use intent as a big magnet to draw people in. Intent is the most powerful word in marketing, and that's what you're doing. Find a way to make firms come to you, hat in hand.
  - grover_hartmann 12y ago
    I agree with that. Thanks for the advice.
    - playlist 12y ago
      You're welcome. Several years ago I gave this same advice to my daughters (both in their late teens). They've been gainfully employed ever since.
      - grover_hartmann 12y ago
        How do you know what their problems are though if they won't even give you a chance to an interview?
        seekingcharlie 12y ago
        Guess. Honestly, you can simply look at any product shots they show on their company website & comment on opportunities etc from that. You'll probably be wildly incorrect, but you've already shown the initiative to award you the chance to interview.
        grover_hartmann 12y ago
        Good advice. Thanks.
zacoder 12y ago
Your approach sucks even more. Proving yourself to a company just to get a job offer is a lot of effort for very little gain. Simply sending a resume to 50 companies has a much higher chance of succeeding. Even if you do spend the time and impress someone. All you get is a standard job offer. They don't make the effort to impress you. So then, why go through the hassle? Why waste a day to make your case when you can easily send 20 resumes and get a higher probability of success? You're probably on the hiring side. This would explain your skewed and entitled perspective. Getting a job these days is just a numbers game. Doesn't matter how skilled you are. You're either extremely sociable with a large network of people that can get you a job. Or you're spamming job adverts until something sticks. Meanwhile, employers want to be impressed. And can't figure out why skilled people don't come running to their shitty jobs with shitty pay.

grover_hartmann 12y ago

So when you go out and look for a job, do you also expect the job to come to you, or you go after the job? Nobody will give you a job on a silver platter. Contributing to open source is one thing, looking for a job is another one. Thanks for the advice though.

playlist 12y ago
You are the specialist. Tell prospective employers how you'll solve their problems. Come at it from a position of strength. In other words, use intent as a big magnet to draw people in. Intent is the most powerful word in marketing, and that's what you're doing. Find a way to make firms come to you, hat in hand.
- grover_hartmann 12y ago
  I agree with that. Thanks for the advice.
  - playlist 12y ago
    You're welcome. Several years ago I gave this same advice to my daughters (both in their late teens). They've been gainfully employed ever since.
    - grover_hartmann 12y ago
      How do you know what their problems are though if they won't even give you a chance to an interview?
      - seekingcharlie 12y ago
        Guess. Honestly, you can simply look at any product shots they show on their company website & comment on opportunities etc from that. You'll probably be wildly incorrect, but you've already shown the initiative to award you the chance to interview.
        grover_hartmann 12y ago
        Good advice. Thanks.

zacoder 12y ago

Your approach sucks even more. Proving yourself to a company just to get a job offer is a lot of effort for very little gain. Simply sending a resume to 50 companies has a much higher chance of succeeding. Even if you do spend the time and impress someone. All you get is a standard job offer. They don't make the effort to impress you. So then, why go through the hassle? Why waste a day to make your case when you can easily send 20 resumes and get a higher probability of success? You're probably on the hiring side. This would explain your skewed and entitled perspective. Getting a job these days is just a numbers game. Doesn't matter how skilled you are. You're either extremely sociable with a large network of people that can get you a job. Or you're spamming job adverts until something sticks. Meanwhile, employers want to be impressed. And can't figure out why skilled people don't come running to their shitty jobs with shitty pay.