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It is not just social acceptance, though. It is also the problem that one's livelihood is closely tied to one's employment. With both these things, the questio

It is not just social acceptance, though. It is also the problem that one's livelihood is closely tied to one's employment. With both these things, the question is how the social acceptance and the detachment of livelihood from employment comes about. Will it require revolutions and civil war with accompanying bloodshed when the downtrodden unemployed rise up? Or will we be collectively smart enough to reform our economic systems before the rift through society becomes too deep?

rndn 12y ago
Maybe I'm thinking in too simple terms, but I can't imagine that being a major problem because it will affect people from all classes in the same way and the change will probably be fairly quick (once the technology is available, everyone will want it immediately to remain competitive). Intelligence is distributed like a Gauss bell, so it will equally hit lower, upper and middle class, making the necessity for a basic income very quickly obvious. I don't think the lower class will be excluded from such a social system. I personally think the bigger risks are AIs themselves, used as weapons or when they go out of control.
- nhaehnle 12y ago
  "it will affect people from all classes in the same way" No. Given a roughly capitalist system as we have today, the vast majority of the economic benefits of AI is captured by "capital"[1]. People from a sufficiently rich and powerful background will not suffer like those who do not have any capital to speak of. Only those without capital need a basic income. [1] Which is a problematic term, hence the quotation marks.
  - rndn 12y ago
    I mean that more in personal terms ("look, this machine is more skillful/faster/smarter than you") than in economical terms. There will be a huge impact on the service sector, so upper and middle class will be able to personally relate to the lower class and show empathy. I think the middle class will mainly promote the changes.
gonvaled 12y ago
It will be difficult for a malnourished and disarmed majority, with little information about the structure of power, to raise against an AI army. And until the AI army is ready, the AI capitalists can finance an elite of soldiers to keep the hungry masses at bay.

rndn 12y ago

Maybe I'm thinking in too simple terms, but I can't imagine that being a major problem because it will affect people from all classes in the same way and the change will probably be fairly quick (once the technology is available, everyone will want it immediately to remain competitive). Intelligence is distributed like a Gauss bell, so it will equally hit lower, upper and middle class, making the necessity for a basic income very quickly obvious. I don't think the lower class will be excluded from such a social system. I personally think the bigger risks are AIs themselves, used as weapons or when they go out of control.

nhaehnle 12y ago
"it will affect people from all classes in the same way" No. Given a roughly capitalist system as we have today, the vast majority of the economic benefits of AI is captured by "capital"[1]. People from a sufficiently rich and powerful background will not suffer like those who do not have any capital to speak of. Only those without capital need a basic income. [1] Which is a problematic term, hence the quotation marks.
- rndn 12y ago
  I mean that more in personal terms ("look, this machine is more skillful/faster/smarter than you") than in economical terms. There will be a huge impact on the service sector, so upper and middle class will be able to personally relate to the lower class and show empathy. I think the middle class will mainly promote the changes.

gonvaled 12y ago

It will be difficult for a malnourished and disarmed majority, with little information about the structure of power, to raise against an AI army. And until the AI army is ready, the AI capitalists can finance an elite of soldiers to keep the hungry masses at bay.