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Beg your pardon. I find the exact opposite as true. People today, are generally careful and sensitive about what they say about Jews or black people, because th

by _nedR 12y ago

Beg your pardon. I find the exact opposite as true. People today, are generally careful and sensitive about what they say about Jews or black people, because they don't want to be labelled as anti-semitic or racist. Muslims seems to be the only minority you can criticize and be politically correct. Consider the following statement : "Maybe most Jews are peaceful, but until they recognize and destroy their growing zionist cancer they must be held responsible" Is the above sentence racist? anti-semitic? Blood libel? Incitement to hatred and violence? Possibly prosecutable? Well here is what Rupert Murdoch, the head of News Corporation, the head of one of the largest media organisations in the world tweeted a few days back : "Maybe most Moslems peaceful, but until they recognize and destroy their growing jihadist cancer they must be held responsible."

fit2rule 12y ago
Maybe most Americans are peaceful, but until they recognize and destroy their growing military-industrialist cancer they must be held responsible.
- TeMPOraL 12y ago
  Maybe most Kerbals are safety-conscious, but until they recognize and strut up their growing pile of solid rocket boosters at the launchpad they must be held responsible... ... oh wait, I forgot it's not Reddit.
tomp 12y ago
To be fair, I think you're pretty free to criticize the more extremist aspects of Judaism, such as circumcision (yes, they scream "antisemitism", but nobody takes them seriously), the ultra-orthodox political campaigns in Israel (e.g. that men and women should walk on opposite sidewalks). Also, they don't seem to have as many idiotic rules as Muslims (no depictions of Yahweh? or at least I don't know about them, and they take them much less seriously).
- _nedR 12y ago
  >> I think you're pretty free to criticize the more extremist aspects of Judaism, such as circumcision (yes, they scream "antisemitism", but nobody takes them seriously), Well I don't think many jews, or muslims for that matter (muslims do it too) would be offended by a reasoned criticism of circumcision. It is usually the hot topics like Israeli actions, or depiction of Prophet Muhammad that seems to trigger passions.
  - tomp 12y ago
    There was quite a scandal in Germany recently, when a court ruled that circumcision was illegal, and both Muslims and Jews threw a fit, saying that Nazism is back.
    - _nedR 12y ago
      Well. Then it no longer is criticism, is it? You are essentially taking away their right to do something.
      - tomp 12y ago
        > You are essentially taking away their right to do something. Like... harming other people, specifically children? Oh, they are so oppressed /s
amirmc 12y ago
And here's the tweet itself. https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/553734788881076225 https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/553734788881076225 I'm pretty sure that if he'd said this about Jews, it would not have had 7k retweets and he'd also have been forced to 'apologise'.
kbart 12y ago
Exactly. Glenn Greenwald posted a great article on Intercept about this topic yesterday. Worth reading.
- filoeleven 12y ago
  I was going to respond with the same thing. Since you beat me to it, here's the link: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/01/09/solidarity-charlie-hebdo-cartoons/ https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/01/09/solidarity-cha...

by _nedR 12y ago

fit2rule 12y ago

Maybe most Americans are peaceful, but until they recognize and destroy their growing military-industrialist cancer they must be held responsible.

TeMPOraL 12y ago
Maybe most Kerbals are safety-conscious, but until they recognize and strut up their growing pile of solid rocket boosters at the launchpad they must be held responsible... ... oh wait, I forgot it's not Reddit.

tomp 12y ago

To be fair, I think you're pretty free to criticize the more extremist aspects of Judaism, such as circumcision (yes, they scream "antisemitism", but nobody takes them seriously), the ultra-orthodox political campaigns in Israel (e.g. that men and women should walk on opposite sidewalks). Also, they don't seem to have as many idiotic rules as Muslims (no depictions of Yahweh? or at least I don't know about them, and they take them much less seriously).

_nedR 12y ago
>> I think you're pretty free to criticize the more extremist aspects of Judaism, such as circumcision (yes, they scream "antisemitism", but nobody takes them seriously), Well I don't think many jews, or muslims for that matter (muslims do it too) would be offended by a reasoned criticism of circumcision. It is usually the hot topics like Israeli actions, or depiction of Prophet Muhammad that seems to trigger passions.
- tomp 12y ago
  There was quite a scandal in Germany recently, when a court ruled that circumcision was illegal, and both Muslims and Jews threw a fit, saying that Nazism is back.
  - _nedR 12y ago
    Well. Then it no longer is criticism, is it? You are essentially taking away their right to do something.
    - tomp 12y ago
      > You are essentially taking away their right to do something. Like... harming other people, specifically children? Oh, they are so oppressed /s

amirmc 12y ago

And here's the tweet itself. https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/553734788881076225 https://twitter.com/rupertmurdoch/status/553734788881076225 I'm pretty sure that if he'd said this about Jews, it would not have had 7k retweets and he'd also have been forced to 'apologise'.

kbart 12y ago

Exactly. Glenn Greenwald posted a great article on Intercept about this topic yesterday. Worth reading.

filoeleven 12y ago
I was going to respond with the same thing. Since you beat me to it, here's the link: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/01/09/solidarity-charlie-hebdo-cartoons/ https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/01/09/solidarity-cha...