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I guess your prophesies seem groundless to some people here. For example, I have not idea why future you are describing is going happen. There are many other a

by gtt 12y ago

I guess your prophesies seem groundless to some people here. For example, I have not idea why future you are describing is going happen. There are many other alternatives. What if future will be all about cloud computing provided by gargantuan sized companies? What if only a few hosting companies will remain and personal owning of computing device would be economically inefficient?

gaius 12y ago
If you replace "the cloud" with "the mainframe" we are heading at full tilt back to the 70s, and that's a good thing.
- placebo 12y ago
  I might be misunderstanding you, but I don't think any extreme is a good thing simply because being limited to an extreme means having less choice, and that is a bad thing. There are advantages to centralism, there are advantages to distributed systems and there are advantages to doing the processing locally. The best state of affairs is having all these options available to you when deciding how to architect the best system for your requirements. If a mainframe type solution is the best, do that. If running it on your PC can solve the problem, then do that. If you need a combination then do that. Personally, I think that returning to the "mainframe does it all" concept is a huge step back in terms of freedom, and therefore in terms of potential.
  - walterbell 12y ago
    The papers for CMU's cloudlets project cover some topological assets of code that runs centrally or is slaved to central logic, http://elijah.cs.cmu.edu http://elijah.cs.cmu.edu The next step is formalizing interactions for code that runs on the same node (central or edge), but originates from competitive businesses.
  - gaius 12y ago
    In uptime, security and manageability, nothing can touch the mainframe. If you build a mainframe out of thousands of CPUs and call it a "cloud" that's fine :-)
- JetSpiegel 12y ago
  Cloud-to-butt is like a gift that keeps on giving.

by gtt 12y ago

gaius 12y ago

If you replace "the cloud" with "the mainframe" we are heading at full tilt back to the 70s, and that's a good thing.

placebo 12y ago
I might be misunderstanding you, but I don't think any extreme is a good thing simply because being limited to an extreme means having less choice, and that is a bad thing. There are advantages to centralism, there are advantages to distributed systems and there are advantages to doing the processing locally. The best state of affairs is having all these options available to you when deciding how to architect the best system for your requirements. If a mainframe type solution is the best, do that. If running it on your PC can solve the problem, then do that. If you need a combination then do that. Personally, I think that returning to the "mainframe does it all" concept is a huge step back in terms of freedom, and therefore in terms of potential.
- walterbell 12y ago
  The papers for CMU's cloudlets project cover some topological assets of code that runs centrally or is slaved to central logic, http://elijah.cs.cmu.edu http://elijah.cs.cmu.edu The next step is formalizing interactions for code that runs on the same node (central or edge), but originates from competitive businesses.
- gaius 12y ago
  In uptime, security and manageability, nothing can touch the mainframe. If you build a mainframe out of thousands of CPUs and call it a "cloud" that's fine :-)
JetSpiegel 12y ago
Cloud-to-butt is like a gift that keeps on giving.