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Indeed. Patriarchy is enforced by both men and women.
by frandroid 12y ago
Indeed. Patriarchy is enforced by both men and women.
- frandroid 12y agoOh yeah I forgot. Make a feminist point on HN, get downvoted to hell and beneath.
- teamhappy 12y ago> Make a feminist point on HN, get downvoted to hell and beneath. That's not true at all. I think you got down-voted because you missed the point of the comment you replied to. (I think) the point was that even if you get rid of patriarchy, you'd still have to deal with women putting each other down. I guess that's noteworthy because it's easy to forget when you read an article like this one. I am constantly amazed by how poorly we treat each other. All of us, really.
- rmc 12y agoBut how much of women putting other women down is due to patriarchy? What if it's all due to patriarchy? What if getting rid of patriarchy solves it all?
- teamhappy 12y agoI can't tell if those are rhetorical questions or not. Part of it might be patriarchy, but I'm pretty sure for the most part it's just nature at work. Women competing with other women for the attention of men doesn't sound new to me.
- rmc 12y agoThe parent comment implied without evidence that that all women putting down women had nothing to do with patriarchy. I gave a reason as to how it might (to a possibly massive amount) be due to patriarchy. And what if "nature at work" isn't so natural? Go back 50 years and people would say that it's unnatural for 2 men to love each other.
- dragonwriter 12y agoThe way patriarchy is usually defined by feminists, women putting other women down (at least to the extent that that is because the women being put down are acting in a way that is outside of the fixed gender roles held by the women doing the putting down) is an example of patriarchy, not an effect of it.
- teamhappy 12y agoLet me see if I got this right. You're saying "normal" women putting down "weird" women would fall under the agreed upon definition of patriarchy? How is that not just xenophobia/mobbing?
- Someone1234 12y agoI didn't, but maybe some people felt that comment didn't add to the discussion. All you wanted to do was injected a single politically charged word into the discussion, you had no insights to add or thoughts on how it applied to this story in particular. It was low effort overall. Seems now with this additional post that you just made your original post because you wanted to play victim or start an argument, either way it isn't making you look any better and still doesn't contribute to the overall discussion. In particular as you barely waited 5 minutes before declaring yourself a victim.