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Hey. Thanks for getting back. So, you're basically saying TextSecure is the real thing (unsurprisingly) and that it might just add the UX related stuff (multip
by darklajid 12y ago
Hey. Thanks for getting back.
So, you're basically saying TextSecure is the real thing (unsurprisingly) and that it might just add the UX related stuff (multiple devices, devices that .. well .. don't have a phone number) later.
I'm still unconvinced.
I can follow your argument if we're talking crypto only (Disclaimer: I .. shouldn't talk about crypto). So, ignoring Telegram again, TextSecure is putting encryption first. Great. Except that I don't see a way to remove the base assumption here. "Your identifier is a mobile number".
That is absolutely crap. Both for UX reasons (see above and up-thread, devices that I own that cannot claim my mobile number) and .. because I don't want to share my mobile number for random IM chats.
Again: Yes, my mobile number _might_ uniquely identify me. No, that is not a cool 'user name' in any sort of messaging app.
I fail to understand how TextSecure can go from this fatal and flawed assumption and .. fix that. It's broken. The encryption might be sound, but the idea is crap.
Granted, I'm not the best programmer and far from a crypto expert, but .. it seems to me as if changing this fundamental assumption would be hard to do for TextSecure. Their partnership with WhatsApp makes it worse, because those guys do the same insane bullshit and just tell your mom, your ex and your aunt twice removed that you're now available to chat on WhatsApp.
Let me state it differently: I have TextSecure installed. I cannot run it. It is, at this point, utterly unusable. I wouldn't know how I could market this to friends or family, because it is unusable.
How can we fix that? How can we - again, I've never installed or used that one, but it's the thread's topic right now - approximate Telegram?
- ryukafalz 12y agoI would have to agree with you on that one - TextSecure seems like a great option, with the exception of its reliance on mobile numbers. This is mostly because they're centrally controlled, and at no point do you actually "own" your mobile number. Changing this wouldn't be a big deal, as TextSecure doesn't really use mobile numbers for anything important as far as I can tell. I get the feeling it was more intended for ease of use among the average person, but it is frustrating for someone who would rather get rid of mobile numbers altogether.