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Nature should be treated as GPLv3 or greater. Things like suicide or sterile seeds are DRM.

by iwwr 12y ago

hga 12y ago
Congratulations! You've just wiped out a very large fraction of the world's maize production: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_seed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_seed and probably some other significant crops. Millions are starving, many more rarely can include meat in their diet. Let me Godwin this discussion by pointing out the lack of information you have about the subject is an example of why command economies preform so poorly. There's just too much information needed to make intelligent decisions. And then we get things like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism because the process is done by people good at politics, and without skin in the game. Farmers have skin in the game. Maybe we should accord their decisions some respect???
- iwwr 12y ago
  Relaxed IP requirements helped software and hardware develop reasonably fast. Imagine if the big corps like AT&T or IBM had the foresight to patent vital early algorithmic research. Or how hardware may have developed if AMD's early reverse-engineering of Intel chips was deemed illegal. Now biotech is still in infancy as far as genetic engineering. Giving a few corporations the right to 'homestead' nature's IP is going to impede startups or small actors to develop the field. It would also prevent development of tech that involves many inter-related concepts, which could be found in different companies' IP pools. That's besides biotech IP trolls or internecine corp trade wars. So we're not talking about farmers, but the ability of this field to develop quickly like technology did in the last few decades. The technological barriers to entry are falling but in their place IP barriers are erected.
  - hga 12y ago
    Or how hardware may have developed if AMD's early reverse-engineering of Intel chips was deemed illegal. Terrible example, because AMD's right to do that came from their contract with Intel to second source the 8086/8 and 286: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_source#Examples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_source#Examples Biotech is extremely rich with small companies, startups, etc., and absent your being able to point out current serious problems, your supposition that the situation might be even better if those small companies were denied IP rights to their developments is at best entirely unfounded.

Nature should be treated as GPLv3 or greater. Things like suicide or sterile seeds are DRM.

by iwwr 12y ago

Nature should be treated as GPLv3 or greater. Things like suicide or sterile seeds are DRM.

hga 12y ago

Congratulations! You've just wiped out a very large fraction of the world's maize production: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_seed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_seed and probably some other significant crops. Millions are starving, many more rarely can include meat in their diet. Let me Godwin this discussion by pointing out the lack of information you have about the subject is an example of why command economies preform so poorly. There's just too much information needed to make intelligent decisions. And then we get things like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism because the process is done by people good at politics, and without skin in the game. Farmers have skin in the game. Maybe we should accord their decisions some respect???

iwwr 12y ago
Relaxed IP requirements helped software and hardware develop reasonably fast. Imagine if the big corps like AT&T or IBM had the foresight to patent vital early algorithmic research. Or how hardware may have developed if AMD's early reverse-engineering of Intel chips was deemed illegal. Now biotech is still in infancy as far as genetic engineering. Giving a few corporations the right to 'homestead' nature's IP is going to impede startups or small actors to develop the field. It would also prevent development of tech that involves many inter-related concepts, which could be found in different companies' IP pools. That's besides biotech IP trolls or internecine corp trade wars. So we're not talking about farmers, but the ability of this field to develop quickly like technology did in the last few decades. The technological barriers to entry are falling but in their place IP barriers are erected.
- hga 12y ago
  Or how hardware may have developed if AMD's early reverse-engineering of Intel chips was deemed illegal. Terrible example, because AMD's right to do that came from their contract with Intel to second source the 8086/8 and 286: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_source#Examples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_source#Examples Biotech is extremely rich with small companies, startups, etc., and absent your being able to point out current serious problems, your supposition that the situation might be even better if those small companies were denied IP rights to their developments is at best entirely unfounded.