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It's a question of timing and targets, not quantity. This is one reason my question about farming background is relevant, from what you've been saying you clea
by hga 12y ago
It's a question of timing and targets, not quantity.
This is one reason my question about farming background is relevant, from what you've been saying you clearly don't have this background, let alone have ever used (generic) Roundup yourself.
I've helped my father do so, in general weed killing applications, and he knows farmers who use the stuff for real, and just asked one, who said:
You never let Roundup touch the plants you're growing---it only works when a plant is growing, BTW, in a "plantostatic" way, like bacteriostatic, it inhibits the synthesis of some critical amino acids. If you don't have Roundup Ready seeds, you spray before planting or after harvest, or you make sure the spray hits weeds, not your plants.
That's because it's such a general killer of plants (assuming it can get inside, but that has no bearing on this discussion of genetics). And why it's so safe, animals cannot synthesize these amino acids (well, not without using one of the others as a precursor): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromatic_amino_acids https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aromatic_amino_acids
So, no selection pressure on the crops themselves, unless you really screw up.
- jacquesm 12y agoThanks! That's enlightening. So if I understood you right application of roundup on any non-resistant crop is in error, it is only to be used pre-emergence.
- hga 12y agoOne time you can use it is pre-emergence of your crops; the weeds have to have emerged and be actively growing. Post-emergence of your crops, you have to spray carefully, but that's possible in some circumstances.
- ScottBurson 12y ago> And why it's so safe, animals cannot synthesize these amino acids "So safe"? Hmm. Okay, it's not as toxic as other herbicides that people had been using before glyphosate showed up. I think the question of long-term low-level toxicity is still open.
- hga 12y agoIs there anything that would possibly, in principle, convince you it's safe?
- ScottBurson 12y agoCertainly: a long-term controlled study looking for health effects on people exposed to it, vs. a control group that isn't. 50 years should be adequate. (You said "in principle" :-)