This is exactly the problem with the communities "greater than though" tone toward anything non-EU/US engineered. The Telegram client is open source. Threema fo

This is exactly the problem with the communities "greater than though" tone toward anything non-EU/US engineered. The Telegram client is open source. Threema for example is NOT. WhatsApp for example, is NOT. Facebook Messenger, is not. Telegram appears to have the right balance in getting real peer review from having the system open source and verifiable while also garnering this huge animosity which has lead to even more review. As far as I can see Telegram and TextSecure are the only clients where the protocol can be verified through the open source client. I'm not advocating for its use but I'm sick of the misconceptions.