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Actually, I couldn't care less if it's copyrighted or not, the sheer idea of adding some trash to binaries "for fun" is absolutely enraging in my opinion. Gosh,

by krick 12y ago

Actually, I couldn't care less if it's copyrighted or not, the sheer idea of adding some trash to binaries "for fun" is absolutely enraging in my opinion. Gosh, I don't get how anybody sane could think it's funny. I don't think that there should exist some magic command in Python which prints out "Zen of Python", but it's OK, let it be, no harm done. It's just some executable, which interprets text you passed it and does something based on what is written there. It's almost natural there's some command I don't use. It's a bit worse when some tool like ack instead of being "better grep" has a shitload of ugly ascii-art in in, because it's a bit distracting when I read the sources or even man-page, but, again, it's not that bad. Stupid, useless, but maybe it's actually my problem I don't like it. But here is a language compiler which is advertised as "as close to metal as C", "zero overhead" and stuff, and it puts some random text in my binaries! 2KB of it! It's just… marvelous! Easter Eggs are fun in GTA Vice City or something, but these are tools, goddammit. Would you like it if your hammer would have a secret life, doing something you don't expect it to do? Smashing some details when you don't see it? Well, I wouldn't. And all I expect of a hammer is, well, being hit against some surface when I do so.

coldtea 12y ago
>Gosh, I don't get how anybody sane could think it's funny. It's for people with a sense of humor.
- RobertKerans 12y ago
  I dunno, I think it's more a way of stating 'this was written by a person', similar to the mouseman furniture. Whether that's appropriate or not in an OS project with multiple collaborators is debatable; I would say yes, but those disagreeing have a fair point (sadly, I feel)
RobertKerans 12y ago
What if the hammer had, say, a quote stamped, in very small script, into the head, or carved at the base of the haft?
- joosters 12y ago
  What if, say, US army gun sights had bible verses stamped on them? http://www.christianpost.com/news/u-s-military-concerned-about-guns-with-bible-verses-43411/ http://www.christianpost.com/news/u-s-military-concerned-abo...
  - RobertKerans 12y ago
    Well I never.
  - hga 12y ago
    Those aren't really "US Army" gun sights, as in the stock iron sights on the M16 and M4 rifles produced to government specifications by Colt, or now FNH since Colt has lost all their contracts. They and other designs, like my favorite the holographic EOTech, are sights designed and manufactured by independent companies that the US Army and Marines found to be useful in combat, one of the truly big advantages of our still having a serious civilian gun culture. And of course Trijicon fixed this after it was requested. Note also that these are even better Easter eggs, in that one of Trijicon's claims to fame is using tritium to provide sight illumination in the dark, hence using references (not actual quotes) to Bible verses referencing "Jesus being the light of the world" per the article. Whereas many people including myself are interested in Rust precisely because it promises to deliver us from the Lovecraftian horrors of C and C++ (although not this one: http://www.bobhobbs.com/files/kr_lovecraft.html http://www.bobhobbs.com/files/kr_lovecraft.html).
- krick 12y ago
  > quote stamped, in very small script You see, "quote stamped on the hammer" would be the case if it would have poetry in the comments in the sources (which is actually nice unless it raises real problems because of some folks who doesn't understand art, but, unfortunately, have a voice in somebody's organization, e.g. lawyers) or, at max (which actually is even closer to your example), if the compiler binaries itself would contain these quotes, which is weird, but still acceptable. But this one hammer is stamping quotes on my details, really. I hope you can see the difference.

by krick 12y ago

coldtea 12y ago

>Gosh, I don't get how anybody sane could think it's funny. It's for people with a sense of humor.

RobertKerans 12y ago
I dunno, I think it's more a way of stating 'this was written by a person', similar to the mouseman furniture. Whether that's appropriate or not in an OS project with multiple collaborators is debatable; I would say yes, but those disagreeing have a fair point (sadly, I feel)

RobertKerans 12y ago

What if the hammer had, say, a quote stamped, in very small script, into the head, or carved at the base of the haft?

joosters 12y ago
What if, say, US army gun sights had bible verses stamped on them? http://www.christianpost.com/news/u-s-military-concerned-about-guns-with-bible-verses-43411/ http://www.christianpost.com/news/u-s-military-concerned-abo...
- RobertKerans 12y ago
  Well I never.
- hga 12y ago
  Those aren't really "US Army" gun sights, as in the stock iron sights on the M16 and M4 rifles produced to government specifications by Colt, or now FNH since Colt has lost all their contracts. They and other designs, like my favorite the holographic EOTech, are sights designed and manufactured by independent companies that the US Army and Marines found to be useful in combat, one of the truly big advantages of our still having a serious civilian gun culture. And of course Trijicon fixed this after it was requested. Note also that these are even better Easter eggs, in that one of Trijicon's claims to fame is using tritium to provide sight illumination in the dark, hence using references (not actual quotes) to Bible verses referencing "Jesus being the light of the world" per the article. Whereas many people including myself are interested in Rust precisely because it promises to deliver us from the Lovecraftian horrors of C and C++ (although not this one: http://www.bobhobbs.com/files/kr_lovecraft.html http://www.bobhobbs.com/files/kr_lovecraft.html).
krick 12y ago
> quote stamped, in very small script You see, "quote stamped on the hammer" would be the case if it would have poetry in the comments in the sources (which is actually nice unless it raises real problems because of some folks who doesn't understand art, but, unfortunately, have a voice in somebody's organization, e.g. lawyers) or, at max (which actually is even closer to your example), if the compiler binaries itself would contain these quotes, which is weird, but still acceptable. But this one hammer is stamping quotes on my details, really. I hope you can see the difference.