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Maybe? But I think its more just a natural evolution. Scott Hanselman has been making noise regarding open source for years [1]. I'm not saying Scott is resp

by cpayne 12y ago

Maybe? But I think its more just a natural evolution. Scott Hanselman has been making noise regarding open source for years [1]. I'm not saying Scott is responsible, just that many people have been suggesting it for a long long time. I saw a job today asking for TFS skills. THAT is a dying product... [1] http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ExampleHowToContributeAPatchToAnOpenSourceProjectLikeDasBlog.aspx http://www.hanselman.com/blog/ExampleHowToContributeAPatchTo...

pjmlp 12y ago
You missed the part that TFS is much more than just source control and since TFS 2012 also supports Git.
- josteink 12y ago
  You mean like. Application Lifecycle Management? ALM? Bug-tracking, release-management and stuff? Which they now will be using Github for? Oh. That's definitely interesting.
  - gokhan 12y ago
    HN does not give you clues to understand what's going on in the Enterperise market. So don't judge products based on what you see here. No one talks about SharePoint on HN, for example, but it's really something for the Enterprise. Just like TFS, and I have seen many Java teams moving in, ditching various expensive products from IBM, HP etc. Team sizes or focus in HN might be different so TFS might be seen as dying, but it's not the case in the field.
    - josteink 12y ago
      Since most of my work experience is from working at big corps or consultancies, I'm definitely aware of this. Microsoft has a heap of products and platforms not once mentioned on HN, but which are humongous in the organizations which decides to adapt them: Sharepoint, BizTalk, etc. But TFS has always been "the" corner-stone for optimal development in the Microsoft-world, when developing according to Microsoft agile/solutions-framework (MSF, etc). When Microsoft's own SDK teams dismiss their own development tools and platforms like TFS and Codeplex for competing platforms, like Git & Github, it definitely sends out mixed signals. Anyway you see it, Linus Thorvalds must be pretty happy now. Not only are Microsoft providing tools and source to the Linux-world, they are now also using his tools to develop their own platform. How things have changed, eh?
pjmlp 12y ago
You missed the part that TFS is much more than just source control and since TFS 2012 also supports Git.

by cpayne 12y ago

pjmlp 12y ago

You missed the part that TFS is much more than just source control and since TFS 2012 also supports Git.

josteink 12y ago
You mean like. Application Lifecycle Management? ALM? Bug-tracking, release-management and stuff? Which they now will be using Github for? Oh. That's definitely interesting.
- gokhan 12y ago
  HN does not give you clues to understand what's going on in the Enterperise market. So don't judge products based on what you see here. No one talks about SharePoint on HN, for example, but it's really something for the Enterprise. Just like TFS, and I have seen many Java teams moving in, ditching various expensive products from IBM, HP etc. Team sizes or focus in HN might be different so TFS might be seen as dying, but it's not the case in the field.
  - josteink 12y ago
    Since most of my work experience is from working at big corps or consultancies, I'm definitely aware of this. Microsoft has a heap of products and platforms not once mentioned on HN, but which are humongous in the organizations which decides to adapt them: Sharepoint, BizTalk, etc. But TFS has always been "the" corner-stone for optimal development in the Microsoft-world, when developing according to Microsoft agile/solutions-framework (MSF, etc). When Microsoft's own SDK teams dismiss their own development tools and platforms like TFS and Codeplex for competing platforms, like Git & Github, it definitely sends out mixed signals. Anyway you see it, Linus Thorvalds must be pretty happy now. Not only are Microsoft providing tools and source to the Linux-world, they are now also using his tools to develop their own platform. How things have changed, eh?

pjmlp 12y ago

You missed the part that TFS is much more than just source control and since TFS 2012 also supports Git.