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Show HN: I Hate Angular

34 points by hippich 12y ago

code_duck 12y ago
All of the outgoing links lead through ihateangular.co rather than .com.
- hippich 12y ago
  thanx! apparently bug in telescope i am using =) will investigate anr probably file a bug
  - hippich 12y ago
    I was wrong - did not read help under URL setting field which said I should add `/` in the end URL (apparently telescope just cuts last character, hence .co vs .com)
Exuma 12y ago
I have been working a very serious project with angular and it definitely has it's downsides. Overall it's the lack of any kind of model / association ORM that makes it challenging, as creating your own services or models has no best practice guidelines as far as I can tell.
- pseudobry 12y ago
  https://github.com/jmdobry/angular-data https://github.com/jmdobry/angular-data
zkirill 12y ago
Angular drives me nuts on a regular basis but I feel like I learned a great deal about developing Javascript applications from it and its community. I remember someone complaining in AngularJS forums that the documentation reads a lot like a CS dissertation paper. Not sure how many others feel this way but I appreciate the extra context. Or maybe I'm just a masochist.
bryans 12y ago
I really don't understand the point of spending so much energy on something you dislike, rather than just using something you do and moving on with your life. Some people like Angular, some don't. If you don't, your opinion really doesn't matter to the people who do, and you're wasting your time trying to convince them they're doing some disservice to the world by using a framework which they actually like.
- hippich 12y ago
  first: making money matters more for me and i can make work whatever i have at hands second: not always you have option to pick stuff third: just like some advocate for, some can advocate against fourth: this is kinda joke :)
- basch 12y ago
  because frameworks with bigger userbases survive, and keep getting developed. persuading people to move from angular to competitors is a survival tactic. if the next evolution is ignored while a lesser one gets all the press (derby/meteor?) the latter wins out. i have a suspicion all the angular hate is to take away from its momentum so other neglected frameworks get deserved attention.
  - hippich 12y ago
    Me personally not advocating for any particular framework :) I just personally find angular disgusting. BTW, I work on angular (and typescript!) project for a living :)
- KajMagnus 12y ago
  Actually, his opinions and the reasons he dislikes Angular matter a bit, to some. I kind of like Angular (I think it's a lot better than jQuery for big apps), and after reading about React.js, and reading about other people who did not like Angular, I eventually decided to try React.js — and now I've ported my hobby project from Angular to React (because of better performance and server side rendering). I appreciate people respectfully clarifying why they don't like Angular (or whatever else) — them doing so has widened my views.
carsongross 12y ago
I hated angular too, so I built this instead: http://intercoolerjs.org/ http://intercoolerjs.org/
- strongsilentype 12y ago
  that is awesome
je42 12y ago
It makes me sad that Miško hasn't checked out other frameworks. I am not sure what his current role is in Angular development, but I would wish that any major contributor to such a "big & important" open-source framework has the drive to look at competitors code to grow as architect and developer.

34 points by hippich 12y ago

code_duck 12y ago

All of the outgoing links lead through ihateangular.co rather than .com.

hippich 12y ago
thanx! apparently bug in telescope i am using =) will investigate anr probably file a bug
- hippich 12y ago
  I was wrong - did not read help under URL setting field which said I should add `/` in the end URL (apparently telescope just cuts last character, hence .co vs .com)

Exuma 12y ago

I have been working a very serious project with angular and it definitely has it's downsides. Overall it's the lack of any kind of model / association ORM that makes it challenging, as creating your own services or models has no best practice guidelines as far as I can tell.

pseudobry 12y ago
https://github.com/jmdobry/angular-data https://github.com/jmdobry/angular-data

zkirill 12y ago

Angular drives me nuts on a regular basis but I feel like I learned a great deal about developing Javascript applications from it and its community. I remember someone complaining in AngularJS forums that the documentation reads a lot like a CS dissertation paper. Not sure how many others feel this way but I appreciate the extra context. Or maybe I'm just a masochist.

bryans 12y ago

I really don't understand the point of spending so much energy on something you dislike, rather than just using something you do and moving on with your life. Some people like Angular, some don't. If you don't, your opinion really doesn't matter to the people who do, and you're wasting your time trying to convince them they're doing some disservice to the world by using a framework which they actually like.

hippich 12y ago
first: making money matters more for me and i can make work whatever i have at hands second: not always you have option to pick stuff third: just like some advocate for, some can advocate against fourth: this is kinda joke :)
basch 12y ago
because frameworks with bigger userbases survive, and keep getting developed. persuading people to move from angular to competitors is a survival tactic. if the next evolution is ignored while a lesser one gets all the press (derby/meteor?) the latter wins out. i have a suspicion all the angular hate is to take away from its momentum so other neglected frameworks get deserved attention.
- hippich 12y ago
  Me personally not advocating for any particular framework :) I just personally find angular disgusting. BTW, I work on angular (and typescript!) project for a living :)
KajMagnus 12y ago
Actually, his opinions and the reasons he dislikes Angular matter a bit, to some. I kind of like Angular (I think it's a lot better than jQuery for big apps), and after reading about React.js, and reading about other people who did not like Angular, I eventually decided to try React.js — and now I've ported my hobby project from Angular to React (because of better performance and server side rendering). I appreciate people respectfully clarifying why they don't like Angular (or whatever else) — them doing so has widened my views.

carsongross 12y ago

I hated angular too, so I built this instead: http://intercoolerjs.org/ http://intercoolerjs.org/

strongsilentype 12y ago
that is awesome

je42 12y ago

It makes me sad that Miško hasn't checked out other frameworks. I am not sure what his current role is in Angular development, but I would wish that any major contributor to such a "big & important" open-source framework has the drive to look at competitors code to grow as architect and developer.