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I have a lot of trouble getting behind a men's rights movement that feels like an extremely bitter backlash. People claiming association with it have been behin
by cauterized 12y ago
I have a lot of trouble getting behind a men's rights movement that feels like an extremely bitter backlash. People claiming association with it have been behind some extremely frightening threats and intimidation towards women who dare to discuss bias and misogynistic online cultures. And it feels even more reactionary when no legitimate discussion can be had about the struggles women face without an attempted derail into "but men have problems too!"
- stolio 12y agoWhat do you think this thread is? The author wrote an article looking at why men are more willing to be exploited by the academic system and the top comment, which is yours, is "but women have problems too!" You didn't even realize what the article was about, to you it was just another unenlightened man who was had offended you. The central thesis of the piece is controversial but I think it's merits discussion. However when you show up and label it 'offensive' that discourages discourse and encourages the marginalization of the article's author and the article's points. It's a common feminist complaint that conversations about women's issues are derailed, but 1) you guys do it too and 2) I've found that the accusation is often just a quick way to silence dissenting opinions and to avoid engaging on points that don't fit the agenda. I'm not asking you to get behind a men's rights movement, I'm not even part of it. I'm pointing out why men need it, or something similar to it. You can judge it by its worst members if you want but that's never been a good way to understand any group.