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> Sexual assault and rape still affect women at such a higher rate than men it's staggering. This depends on who you trust to gather the data and who is includ
by stolio 12y ago
> Sexual assault and rape still affect women at such a higher rate than men it's staggering.
This depends on who you trust to gather the data and who is included in that data. I really don't want to have the rape/sexual assault discussion because it's never productive, but I will say that I'm not at all impressed with how feminism has handled the subject and that it's created barriers to male victims getting help and support.
There are no large scale movements that deal with specifically male problems. Men's Rights is trying but it's labeled 'hate speech' by feminists. If we're being honest there are no feminists in the Men's Rights movement, there are no feminists who give equal weight to men's problems in general because feminism is based on the idea that women's problems are more serious, more important and more urgent. That may have been reasonable in 1915 when women couldn't vote, in 2015 I'm not buying it, not even close.
Have you even looked at, for example, education numbers recently? Women get more degrees per field except for the hard STEM fields[0], women go to college more than men in general[1] and the individual group that needs the most help in education is a subset of males[2]. It's been since 1991 that women have been graduating college more than men[3]. But instead of dealing with the majority of the education system where men are doing worse than women, we constantly hear about the few areas where women aren't doing as well and we're told it's because of sexism, micro-aggressions, oppression, etc. and we all need to take a stand together c'mon we can do it!
There's no effort to close the high school graduation gender gap, the college enrollment or graduation gaps, it's only where women are behind that changes need to be made. If we changed the numbers to what feminists want - STEM fields evenly split male-female - we wouldn't have equality in education, it would be female domination in education. It already is female domination in education, adding STEM would just make it worse.
[0] - http://www.randalolson.com/2014/06/14/percentage-of-bachelors-degrees-conferred-to-women-by-major-1970-2012/ http://www.randalolson.com/2014/06/14/percentage-of-bachelor...
[1] - http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/03/06/womens-college-enrollment-gains-leave-men-behind/ http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/03/06/womens-colle...
[2] - http://blackboysreport.org/national-summary/black-male-graduation-rates http://blackboysreport.org/national-summary/black-male-gradu...
[3] - http://www.prb.org/Publications/Articles/2011/gender-gap-in-education.aspx http://www.prb.org/Publications/Articles/2011/gender-gap-in-...
- cauterized 12y agoI have a lot of trouble getting behind a men's rights movement that feels like an extremely bitter backlash. People claiming association with it have been behind some extremely frightening threats and intimidation towards women who dare to discuss bias and misogynistic online cultures. And it feels even more reactionary when no legitimate discussion can be had about the struggles women face without an attempted derail into "but men have problems too!"
- stolio 12y agoWhat do you think this thread is? The author wrote an article looking at why men are more willing to be exploited by the academic system and the top comment, which is yours, is "but women have problems too!" You didn't even realize what the article was about, to you it was just another unenlightened man who was had offended you. The central thesis of the piece is controversial but I think it's merits discussion. However when you show up and label it 'offensive' that discourages discourse and encourages the marginalization of the article's author and the article's points. It's a common feminist complaint that conversations about women's issues are derailed, but 1) you guys do it too and 2) I've found that the accusation is often just a quick way to silence dissenting opinions and to avoid engaging on points that don't fit the agenda. I'm not asking you to get behind a men's rights movement, I'm not even part of it. I'm pointing out why men need it, or something similar to it. You can judge it by its worst members if you want but that's never been a good way to understand any group.