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It's an interesting comparison. At least, with a carrier you can go around, but I suppose that, for an aircraft landing on a carrier, the moment of irreversible

It's an interesting comparison. At least, with a carrier you can go around, but I suppose that, for an aircraft landing on a carrier, the moment of irreversible commitment to landing maybe comes a second or two earlier than it does for SpaceX. I don't know if the SpaceX vehicle is programmed to back off and wait if a big wave rocks the platform, but it could do that, wind permitting (edit: no, it couldn't, apparently, see reply by Denvercoder9). Fuel is limited, but it seems like it should be able to hover for a few seconds and wait for the platform to stabilize if necessary. Anyway, they're not developing a sea-landing vehicle, so it's understandable if they don't spend so much time thinking about that. It's designed to land on solid ground, I think and the ground doesn't usually move, after all.

Denvercoder9 12y ago
The thrust-to-weight ratio of an empty Falcon 9 is far too high to hover. Burn the engines too long and it'll just ascent again.
- Intermernet 12y ago
  I wonder how feasible / useful it would be to have realtime best-guess altitude from accelerometers / bouys / laser line-of-site relays etc to give the rocket up to date info to adjust thrust / vector to the drone-ship. Or do they already do this?
  - jccooper 12y ago
    Almost certainly they have really good GPS and inertial sensors on both. That should be enough. Any line of sight like laser or visual can't be trusted due to weather.
- mhandley 12y ago
  Their F9R test vehicle could hover. Isn't that essentially a mockup Falcon 9 first stage, but with only the centre engine? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwwS4YOTbbw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwwS4YOTbbw
izacus 12y ago
I doubt that heavy sea conditions are factored into design - I think currently the way to avoid that is simply not to launch when the weather is bad around landing and launch area. That's probably the cheaper and simpler solution.

Denvercoder9 12y ago

The thrust-to-weight ratio of an empty Falcon 9 is far too high to hover. Burn the engines too long and it'll just ascent again.

Intermernet 12y ago
I wonder how feasible / useful it would be to have realtime best-guess altitude from accelerometers / bouys / laser line-of-site relays etc to give the rocket up to date info to adjust thrust / vector to the drone-ship. Or do they already do this?
- jccooper 12y ago
  Almost certainly they have really good GPS and inertial sensors on both. That should be enough. Any line of sight like laser or visual can't be trusted due to weather.
mhandley 12y ago
Their F9R test vehicle could hover. Isn't that essentially a mockup Falcon 9 first stage, but with only the centre engine? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwwS4YOTbbw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwwS4YOTbbw

izacus 12y ago

I doubt that heavy sea conditions are factored into design - I think currently the way to avoid that is simply not to launch when the weather is bad around landing and launch area. That's probably the cheaper and simpler solution.