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> I work as a university, and every term I have to prepare a program that sends out end of term letters (probation and suspension). Which college do you think g
by JediWing 12y ago
> I work as a university, and every term I have to prepare a program that sends out end of term letters (probation and suspension). Which college do you think gets the most of those, per capita?
Sounds like the system is weeding out the "gamers" pretty well in that case.
> Just because money is wasted elsewhere doesn't mean all should be invited to waste even more money.
No but it does mean there's plenty of low priority things to cut to go towards education.
> if you raise the status of the job, you get status-seekers, if you raise the pay, you get money-seekers.
This is categorically false. Taken to the extreme it means we should pay teachers NOTHING. Then we would get only the really good ones!
Funny thing though, those people. It's almost as if they weren't simply optimizing for a single factor like money or status. It's almost as if they consider a wide variety of factors from pleasure, intellectual challenge, concern for legacy and leaving a mark, and yes gasp whether or not they can support themselves and their family and to what degree of comfort.
- NoMoreNicksLeft 12y ago> Sounds like the system is weeding out the "gamers" pretty well in that case. For now. You're proposing changes to the same system that will undermine that. > This is categorically false. Taken to the extreme it means we should pay teachers NOTHING. Argumentum ad absurdum. > It's almost as if they weren't simply optimizing for a single factor like money or status. The people you want to be teachers never gave a shit about pay anyway. I fully admit this. They will actually do it regardless. When you say "pay them more" you're not going to improve education that way. If you could be honest and confess that you simply think they deserve more and that we should pay them more I'd have no way to argue against that... But such a point doesn't belong in a conversation about improving educational outcomes.