4 ms·
Pedestrian safety is a small portion of all the other safety measures that have increased vehicle weight. The point I'm trying to make is not that these measur
by m52go 12y ago
Pedestrian safety is a small portion of all the other safety measures that have increased vehicle weight.
The point I'm trying to make is not that these measures aren't useful, but that had these resources been spent on more clever road design and traffic rules, the overall safety increases would have been higher.
You don't need seatbelts on a subway train (heck, you can even stand up!) because the likelihood of an accident is almost nil. It's my opinion that that's the ideal governments should have been after with road safety for passenger cars.
--------
EDIT: I guess I made some pretty big claims without any numbers to back them up. Here's something [0]. The Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE) found that weight ratios for modern cars have been getting worse, in part because of safety regulations. The top commenter on the original IEEE article cites additional beams inside doors and more metal in the roof supports to meet rollover standards [1].
For some perspective, the average vehicle-to-passenger weight for the Model T was 7.7. A Boeing 787's ratio is 6.3. For the average modern passenger car, it's 25.7 (!!). Both figures assume the only occupant is a single 154-lb person.
[0] http://www.autoblog.com/2015/01/02/breaking-down-vehicle-weight-to-payload-ratio/ http://www.autoblog.com/2015/01/02/breaking-down-vehicle-wei...
[1] http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/policy/cars-weigh-too-much http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/policy/cars-weigh-too-much
- nl 12y agoAir bags are the biggest safety-related weight contribution. Maybe reinforcements for rollovers, but in most non-convertibles this isn't that big a difference. Airbags make a huge difference to safety. Much of the weight increase has come from luxury features. I agree that road design needs addressing too, but I think you are creating a false dichotomy by making it seem you do one or the other.
- m52go 12y agoSure, and for that reason, it's also important to consider priorities. Governments build infrastructure and car companies build cars. If both entities stuck to what they did best, both would get done, and one would think they'd get done optimally.
- nl 12y agoThose figures show cars like a Honda Civic has a vehicle-to-passenger weight ratio of 18, and a Smart car is 12. Both of these cars pass safety tests. The high average ratio has more to do with US preferences in cars (for large cars built as cheaply as possible) than safety standards on their own. I think it's reasonable to point out that the Model T was much, much slower than modern cars, and unsafe even at the speeds it was driven. Side intrusion protection and rollover protection are both fairly reasonable standards IMHO.