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What's the source for your 20% figure and have you read any of Paul Campos' work on the state of legal education in this country? He's been saying for years th

by meej 12y ago

What's the source for your 20% figure and have you read any of Paul Campos' work on the state of legal education in this country? He's been saying for years that it's a scam. Only half of graduates get jobs as lawyers, applications are way down, and this year schools have been accepting more people with lower LSAT scores in an attempt to keep admissions up. This interview has a summary of some of his claims at the end: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23733599/carroll-many-law-school-degrees-worse-than-worthless http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23733599/carroll-many-law-schoo... He used to blog on the subject anonymously at: http://insidethelawschoolscam.blogspot.com/ http://insidethelawschoolscam.blogspot.com/ He's also written a book on the subject.

declan 12y ago
>What's the source for your 20% figure and have you read any of Paul Campos It's NALP data; they post it on their site. I like what Paul Campos has written, at least what I've read of it, and agree with many of his points, which is why I referred to the "lawyer/law school bubble." I wouldn't go as far as to call it a "scam," but he knows more about the topic than I do, and it is a more memorable name for a blog. By way of disclosure, I've taught law school classes as an adjunct and enjoyed it. But if I were giving a 22-year old advice, I'd tell them to think strongly about alternate careers barring acceptance to a short list including Stanford/Harvard/Yale, precisely because of the oversupply of lawyers (last month I suggested to my cousin that she not go to law school, for instance). Also as a practical matter look at the GCs of everyone's favorite tech companies and estimate whether you're likely to get to that level if you go to a lower-ranked school: Facebook (Harvard), Yahoo (UChicago), Google (Stanford), Twitter (NYU), etc. Whether you like it or not, biographies matter more in law. But nowadays I'm working on http://recent.io/ http://recent.io/ and not paying close attention to Paul's or other legal blogs except for indexing and semantic analysis purposes...
- meej 12y ago
  OK, cool. The 20% figure sounded high to me after years of reading Campos, which is why I asked. I definitely agree with you about the short list.

by meej 12y ago

declan 12y ago

>What's the source for your 20% figure and have you read any of Paul Campos It's NALP data; they post it on their site. I like what Paul Campos has written, at least what I've read of it, and agree with many of his points, which is why I referred to the "lawyer/law school bubble." I wouldn't go as far as to call it a "scam," but he knows more about the topic than I do, and it is a more memorable name for a blog. By way of disclosure, I've taught law school classes as an adjunct and enjoyed it. But if I were giving a 22-year old advice, I'd tell them to think strongly about alternate careers barring acceptance to a short list including Stanford/Harvard/Yale, precisely because of the oversupply of lawyers (last month I suggested to my cousin that she not go to law school, for instance). Also as a practical matter look at the GCs of everyone's favorite tech companies and estimate whether you're likely to get to that level if you go to a lower-ranked school: Facebook (Harvard), Yahoo (UChicago), Google (Stanford), Twitter (NYU), etc. Whether you like it or not, biographies matter more in law. But nowadays I'm working on http://recent.io/ http://recent.io/ and not paying close attention to Paul's or other legal blogs except for indexing and semantic analysis purposes...

meej 12y ago
OK, cool. The 20% figure sounded high to me after years of reading Campos, which is why I asked. I definitely agree with you about the short list.