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> Reformation is unlikely to come from within the Islamic community. I wrote a long response to this but I decided to delete it. Basically this is not very acc
by stevenjohns 12y ago
> Reformation is unlikely to come from within the Islamic community.
I wrote a long response to this but I decided to delete it. Basically this is not very accurate, and familiarity with history of the Middle East and North Africa (including ideologies like Arab nationalism and Ba'athism, or figures like Gamal Abdel Naseer and Hafez al Assad) would show that it certainly can come from within the Islamic world-- primarily because the Islamic world are the prime targets and overwhelmingly the majority of the victims of these actions.
> Their rationale is that the same beliefs are shared by the majority.
Their rationale is also that the majority of Muslims are hypocrites and are not "real" Muslims (when compared to those who follow the extremists' perverse Wahabbi fiqh within the Sunni Hanbali maddhab) or else they would agree with them. Unless we haven't noticed, the prime victim of Islamic extremism is other Muslims, and the prime opposition towards Islamic extremism is other Muslims. To go even further, the primary enemy of ISIS is actually Al Qaeda (in the form of Jabhat al Nusra) and vice versa.
When they say there is no moderate or extremist Muslim, it is because the moderate Muslim does not recognize the extremist as a Muslim, and the extremist does not recognize the moderate as a Muslim. Even the Muslim extremists do not recognize other Muslim extremists as Muslim if they do not pledge allegiance.
There is a reason why these extremist folk are called "Takfiris"-- it literally means "those who accuse others of disbelief." Here [1] is a video between the Western-backed terrorists in Syria and ISIS on a two-way radio call. Pay close attention from about 40s, especially when the Western-backed terrorists ask the ISIS fighters why they do not attack Israel
As an anecdote: In Iraq a fatwa was issued by Ayotallah Sistani to refer to ISIS as "Daesh al Murtad" ("ISIS who has left Islam") but it was eventually brought down to "Asa'ib daesh" ("the gangs of ISIS") so as to avoid the "moderates" receiving the takfiri labeling as it is considered inflammatory.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbY9uU3kQc0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbY9uU3kQc0