um.. firstly, not a straw man (seriously? and then you start crapping on about mormons?), a logical reduction to find out if you think the consequences of belie

um.. firstly, not a straw man (seriously? and then you start crapping on about mormons?), a logical reduction to find out if you think the consequences of believing that either the intention is important or not. so how do you differentiate between "intention is completely irrelevant" and (from your other comment) "because these people choose to ignore facts". are we back to thinking that they are 'choosing' in bad faith? they believe because they do not understand. surely the way to reach them is to build an understanding rather than get angry at them about their beliefs.