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"- Don't make the player go all the way to the end, then all the way to the beginning, then all the way to the end again." I'm looking at you, Metal Gear Soli

"- Don't make the player go all the way to the end, then all the way to the beginning, then all the way to the end again." I'm looking at you, Metal Gear Solid.

_random_ 12y ago
Portals could be an in-app-purchase, so it's better to do exactly that all the time.
qcoh 12y ago
I think it made the location in Metal Gear Solid seem much more real. Aside from maybe Deus Ex I don't know any games where this worked well without feeling like backtracking.
- butterguns 12y ago
  For me, I just felt that brought on a sense of monotony. The entire sequence could take a good couple of hours. Good game design drives you onwards because you're excited about what's coming next (the same rule applies with good novel writing). I would instead groan to myself and think "ugh, again?". The story was the redeeming feature throughout this sequence however.
  - endgame 12y ago
    How do you guys feel about the backtracking in games like Super Metroid? I find that going through an area with all this stuff you can see but not reach leaves wonderful mental hooks so when you pass through again with grapple or space jump you get all this additional exploration and get to feel good because you've remembered stuff.
    - EpicEng 12y ago
      I think Metroid is more akin to the open world games of today. It presented a large world (for the time) and there was a sense of exploration. In a game which is essentially on rails... I don't want to run back to the beginning because there's no goo reason to do so.
petercooper 12y ago
To get the top "grandmaster" rank, Tetris: The Grandmaster 3 requires you beat the game to the second hardest rank 4 out of 7 consecutive runs. To even get that second hardest rank once require years of practice. (Yes, I've been watching AGDQ this week to learn this. Supposedly only 5 people have ever accomplished it.)

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"- Don't make the player go all the way to the end, then all the way to the beginning, then all the way to the end again." I'm looking at you, Metal Gear Soli

by butterguns 12y ago

"- Don't make the player go all the way to the end, then all the way to the beginning, then all the way to the end again." I'm looking at you, Metal Gear Solid.

_random_ 12y ago
Portals could be an in-app-purchase, so it's better to do exactly that all the time.
qcoh 12y ago
I think it made the location in Metal Gear Solid seem much more real. Aside from maybe Deus Ex I don't know any games where this worked well without feeling like backtracking.
- butterguns 12y ago
  For me, I just felt that brought on a sense of monotony. The entire sequence could take a good couple of hours. Good game design drives you onwards because you're excited about what's coming next (the same rule applies with good novel writing). I would instead groan to myself and think "ugh, again?". The story was the redeeming feature throughout this sequence however.
  - endgame 12y ago
    How do you guys feel about the backtracking in games like Super Metroid? I find that going through an area with all this stuff you can see but not reach leaves wonderful mental hooks so when you pass through again with grapple or space jump you get all this additional exploration and get to feel good because you've remembered stuff.
    - EpicEng 12y ago
      I think Metroid is more akin to the open world games of today. It presented a large world (for the time) and there was a sense of exploration. In a game which is essentially on rails... I don't want to run back to the beginning because there's no goo reason to do so.
petercooper 12y ago
To get the top "grandmaster" rank, Tetris: The Grandmaster 3 requires you beat the game to the second hardest rank 4 out of 7 consecutive runs. To even get that second hardest rank once require years of practice. (Yes, I've been watching AGDQ this week to learn this. Supposedly only 5 people have ever accomplished it.)