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I agree that "someone else's land" is a bit much. Saying that "North American Aborigines lived outside the republic" is a bit misleading, because it insinuates
by mr_luc 12y ago
I agree that "someone else's land" is a bit much.
Saying that "North American Aborigines lived outside the republic" is a bit misleading, because it insinuates that they weren't interested in assimilating, and becoming a part of that struggling, triumphing mass of people that identified as Americans at that time.
More truthfully, leading up to the times when they were forcibly relocated to reservations, they were never allowed in, for the same reasons that black residents of the US had a tough time in those years: the world around them was quite racist and (especially in the case of indians) kleptomaniac.
In fact, many Native Americans tried to assimilate; I remember reading about one enterprising native gent in the early 1800s who had made himself quite rich from trade, had a mansion, the whole nine yards ... until the day came when his town wanted his stuff. So they took it, because America was in large part founded on the notion of repeatedly taking stuff that the natives considered their property.
Acknowledging the massive wrongs committed by this country against those peoples isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I agree with you that we need to be realistic about what conclusions we draw from it. Yes, the United States stole stuff from the indians. No, we're not going to now consider dispossessing the current owners of that stuff; that's akin to, say, questioning the rightness of the origins of modern-day Israel. There's a state there now, so it's moot.
- cmurf 12y agoThis is a bad analogy because Israel continues in the modern day to usurp land from Palestinians, forcing them to self-dispossess. So if you're going to say exportation and colonization is wrong and should be illegal, you're right, this was learned during WWII and codified in the Geneva Conventions after it and why all Jewish settler land acquired on Arab villages is considered illegal by the international community minus Israel. And yet this land transfer continues as settlements are expanded, today. So it is not moot to question the rightness of modern day Israel or any other state that forces an indigenous population to self-dispossess.