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It's interesting to read this after the article earlier today about how teens use technology. This proverbial buggy whip manufacture laments his lack of brick a

It's interesting to read this after the article earlier today about how teens use technology. This proverbial buggy whip manufacture laments his lack of brick and mortar book stores, while the teen already sees Facebook as being passé. It must be tough to fight progress. It's a battle you're never going to win.

williamcotton 12y ago
What you see as progress is subjective. The effect of blindly assuming that technologic and economic progress are the only objective truths worth worrying about is incredibly problematic. That's basically the whole point of this article.
- malvosenior 12y ago
  Technological progress is most certainly objective. Computers are much faster today than they were 20 years ago. That is objective. I strongly disagree with this article (and I guess your argument). Technology is part of society. Technological progress IS societal progress. There's nothing "problematic" about that.
  - williamcotton 12y ago
    Technological progress is most certainly objective. Yes, of course, I never said it wasn't. I never said technological progress was problematic. I said that favoring quantifiable progress at the expense of qualitative progress is problematic. Because you work in technology you are benefiting from it's progress. People who work in industries who are being disrupted by technology are not. This is what makes progress subjective. Assuming that the people who are NOT immediately benefitting from technological progress are somehow involved with things that we don't need to worry about is problematic. Art and culture cannot be quantified. Communities that promote quantification and deride qualification are problematic. These things do not need to be at ends with each other. We don't need to look at the existing qualified members as "evil gatekeepers" who deserve their fate in the soup lines. We should be figuring out how their experience and skills are useful and how to integrate them these new technological and economic changes. There is wisdom in age and experience. That our industry is known as "agist" should be a further indicator on how it views the world. If you strongly disagree with the article, by all means, please write a counter-argument. You're gonna have to make it more than a single sentence as it addresses a number of issues. You might even need to research some of the topics the author was referring to. The onus is on you.
    - malvosenior 12y ago
      Actually the onus is on him to find his place in today's world. The eggs of technological progress have been broken. I'm making omelettes. He seems to want to get them back in the chicken. I wish him luck on his quixotic quest.

williamcotton 12y ago

What you see as progress is subjective. The effect of blindly assuming that technologic and economic progress are the only objective truths worth worrying about is incredibly problematic. That's basically the whole point of this article.

malvosenior 12y ago
Technological progress is most certainly objective. Computers are much faster today than they were 20 years ago. That is objective. I strongly disagree with this article (and I guess your argument). Technology is part of society. Technological progress IS societal progress. There's nothing "problematic" about that.
- williamcotton 12y ago
  Technological progress is most certainly objective. Yes, of course, I never said it wasn't. I never said technological progress was problematic. I said that favoring quantifiable progress at the expense of qualitative progress is problematic. Because you work in technology you are benefiting from it's progress. People who work in industries who are being disrupted by technology are not. This is what makes progress subjective. Assuming that the people who are NOT immediately benefitting from technological progress are somehow involved with things that we don't need to worry about is problematic. Art and culture cannot be quantified. Communities that promote quantification and deride qualification are problematic. These things do not need to be at ends with each other. We don't need to look at the existing qualified members as "evil gatekeepers" who deserve their fate in the soup lines. We should be figuring out how their experience and skills are useful and how to integrate them these new technological and economic changes. There is wisdom in age and experience. That our industry is known as "agist" should be a further indicator on how it views the world. If you strongly disagree with the article, by all means, please write a counter-argument. You're gonna have to make it more than a single sentence as it addresses a number of issues. You might even need to research some of the topics the author was referring to. The onus is on you.
  - malvosenior 12y ago
    Actually the onus is on him to find his place in today's world. The eggs of technological progress have been broken. I'm making omelettes. He seems to want to get them back in the chicken. I wish him luck on his quixotic quest.