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I'm curious what you find profound about consciousness? There are plenty of theories about why we have consciousness and what it is that do not require mystic e

by kevin42 12y ago

I'm curious what you find profound about consciousness? There are plenty of theories about why we have consciousness and what it is that do not require mystic explanations. I'm sincerely curious if there are other concepts you think are too profound to be 'created by matter'

ca98am79 12y ago
to be honest I think it is more like gravity - a fundamental part of nature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_interaction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_interaction It's just that consciousness is so different than anything else I have seen created by matter - it is so profoundly different. From my experience and point of view, I don't believe it is created by matter.
- jqm 12y ago
  Consciousness certainly is affected by matter. Anyone who doubts this can do a little informal research with a bottle of vodka.
- kevin42 12y ago
  How do you explain how our consciousness can be interrupted and/or fooled so easily with matter? We can't change the rules of gravity or any other fundamental force, but we can easily alter consciousness. We can predictably alter the way someone's consciousness works with chemicals and electric signals, so how would the rules of matter cross over to something that doesn't follow the rules of matter?
  - ca98am79 12y ago
    Hi Kevin, it appears that we alter consciousness, but are you sure? People could be fooled into thinking they alter electricity itself by breaking a light bulb, but it is obvious they just affect the tool that is used by electricity. I think it is the same when we alter the brain. Why do we all share the present moment? Why does consciousness affect matter at the quantum level? There are a lot of questions like this that don't have reasonable answers until you begin to think of consciousness as a fundamental part of nature.

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I'm curious what you find profound about consciousness? There are plenty of theories about why we have consciousness and what it is that do not require mystic e

by kevin42 12y ago

ca98am79 12y ago
to be honest I think it is more like gravity - a fundamental part of nature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_interaction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_interaction It's just that consciousness is so different than anything else I have seen created by matter - it is so profoundly different. From my experience and point of view, I don't believe it is created by matter.
- jqm 12y ago
  Consciousness certainly is affected by matter. Anyone who doubts this can do a little informal research with a bottle of vodka.
- kevin42 12y ago
  How do you explain how our consciousness can be interrupted and/or fooled so easily with matter? We can't change the rules of gravity or any other fundamental force, but we can easily alter consciousness. We can predictably alter the way someone's consciousness works with chemicals and electric signals, so how would the rules of matter cross over to something that doesn't follow the rules of matter?
  - ca98am79 12y ago
    Hi Kevin, it appears that we alter consciousness, but are you sure? People could be fooled into thinking they alter electricity itself by breaking a light bulb, but it is obvious they just affect the tool that is used by electricity. I think it is the same when we alter the brain. Why do we all share the present moment? Why does consciousness affect matter at the quantum level? There are a lot of questions like this that don't have reasonable answers until you begin to think of consciousness as a fundamental part of nature.