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Smalltalk was invented at ... Xerox PARC. The author works at CDG Labs where Dan Ingalls of Smalltalk fame is employed. I'm fairly certain the author is aware o
by swannodette 12y ago
Smalltalk was invented at ... Xerox PARC. The author works at CDG Labs where Dan Ingalls of Smalltalk fame is employed. I'm fairly certain the author is aware of the history around PARC Smalltalk environments and the PARC Lisp graphical environments that followed.
- pjmlp 12y agoI guess I didn't express myself correctly. I was trying to convey the message that while the author is correct to talk about Smalltalk, the experience was traversal to whole operating systems being researched there. Every time I dig into Xerox PARC documents, I discover new things, specially how we are still catching up with those environments.
- adamnemecek 12y agoWhat Xerox PARC documents are you referring to? I've been looking for something along those lines.
- Sophistifunk 12y agoScour the archives of the VPRI mailing list, it's where I get most of my scans of old Smalltalk stuff (unsurprisingly). Any web search that's even remotely Smalltalk-related quickly ends in circular links and/or 404s.
- pjmlp 12y agoThese books contain all the relevant Smalltalk 80 ones, http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr/FreeBooks.html On bitsavers search for Mesa, Cedar, Interlisp-D and Smalltalk. http://www.textfiles.com/bitsavers/pdf/xerox/ http://www.textfiles.com/bitsavers/pdf/xerox/ Also http://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/LISP/interlisp http://www.softwarepreservation.org/projects/LISP/interlisp ACM also has quite a few papers if you have access to it. Additionally you get some tips by reading Niklaus Wirth books about Modula-2 and Oberon, as he refers how Mesa and Cedar influenced his languages.
- adamnemecek 12y agoThanks, I'll check them out.
- swannodette 12y agoWow these are great links thanks!
- ics 12y ago> Every time I dig into Xerox PARC documents, I discover new things, specially how we are still catching up with those environments. In fairness however us young people are still catching up on others' catching up on said environments. :)
- pjmlp 12y agoWhen I talk to younger developers, I get surprised how little they know about how the 80's and 90's computing landscape looked like. We still had to learn about what was happening since the early 60's. I wonder what gets teached on the universities nowadays. It is amazing how fast so much knowledge goes lost.
- xixixao 12y agoJava. I'm serious.