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Well ... this is satirical magazine that puts offensive content on purpose (not pointlessly though) and they had their headquarters attacked and 10 personal kil
by venomsnake 12y ago
Well ... this is satirical magazine that puts offensive content on purpose (not pointlessly though) and they had their headquarters attacked and 10 personal killed (also 2 police officers).
They were notorious for mocking all religions and have posted content offensive to all.
Right now it is thought that this was the work on islamist terrorists (I have not seen reliable info though, and crazy is cross religion)
Now to make matters worse the right is on the rise in Europe and the interfaith tensions are high due to complex reasons (being in economic depression for a decade helps little).
In a sense this was attack against the core values of what lots of Europe believes. And there are a lot of people for which anti muslim sentiment is a godsend ...
- agumonkey 12y agoTiny detail, one of the cops that was killed on duty was a Muslim man named Ahmed. Hoping this will help avoiding the racist crowd to take advantage of the event too much.
- rimantas 12y agoIslam is a race as much as atheism is a race.
- agumonkey 12y agoPlease don't misunderstand my comment, I'm saying this crowd will conflate the two.
- coldtea 12y agoWell, actually much more. If you tell me you're atheist I don't know much about your race. If you tell me you're a muslim, I can have a very good statistical chance to pinpoint you in one of several ethnicities...
- maxharris 12y ago> If you tell me you're a muslim, I can have a very good statistical chance to pinpoint you in one of several ethnicities... So what? A person's race doesn't determine the ideas, religious or otherwise, that they hold. Two famous examples: Ayaan Hirsi Ali left Islam, and Cat Stevens joined it. A person's ideas, on the other hand, make all the difference in the world. Who can deny that these terrorists were not motivated and guided by a distinct ideology: fundamentalist Islam?
- coldtea 12y ago>So what? A person's race doesn't determine the ideas, religious or otherwise, that they hold. You'be be surprised. The race (or, to be precise, the ethnicity) very much determines the ideas, religious or otherwise that a person holds. Statistically very much. There's a reason a person born in Italy is far far far more likely to be Catholic and not Budhist, etc. >Two famous examples: Ayaan Hirsi Ali left Islam, and Cat Stevens joined it. That you can point to a few specific invdividuals as examples for that, doesn't it tell you all you need to know? That these people are famous exactly as outliers? Most people stick with the prevailing religion in their country etc.
- maxharris 12y agoI'm not sure that we're talking about the same thing. Let me try restating my point: there is no heritable trait that makes you a muslim, a buddhist or a freethinker. What people choose to believe is ultimately on them. Uncritically accepting what your parents, friends and countrymen have to say is still a choice.
- venomsnake 12y agoI really doubt it ... the recent Ny cops death and the reaction of the minority of the force (and mostly the union leadership) showed - people will spin any event in whatever is needed, if it is their job to do so.
- agumonkey 12y agoCan you give me a link or two, I'd like to read more about it.
- venomsnake 12y agohttp://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/04/us-usa-police-idUSKBN0KD06A20150104 http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/04/us-usa-police-idUS... Here is one.
- agumonkey 12y agoThanks
- rimantas 12y agoYour use of the word "offensive" is offensive to me /s