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This is why I have high hopes for integration with the Microsoft store in Windows 10. I'd be pretty happy giving the Filezilla people .99 cents, assuming no 3rd

This is why I have high hopes for integration with the Microsoft store in Windows 10. I'd be pretty happy giving the Filezilla people .99 cents, assuming no 3rd party installer tricks. MS would store my credit card, it would be a one-click process, take the onus of hosting from Sourceforge/Filezilla, and pay a nice little chunk of change on the side directly to the Filezilla people. Of course, anyone is free to fork it and host it for free. There are a lot of little things that drive me crazy about Filezilla. I imagine others have the same issues. I could see a fork with good management being very successful.

almostdvs 12y ago
Remember your units!! http://verizonmath.blogspot.com/2006/12/verizon-doesnt-know-dollars-from-cents.html http://verizonmath.blogspot.com/2006/12/verizon-doesnt-know-...
lsaferite 12y ago
I think this is a point a lot of open source projects miss. They can, and probably should, sell the software even though it is open source. Trademark (?) protection would prevent a third party from using their name even though it was open source (at least I think so based on the whole Iceweasel event). Personally, I'd also gladly pay Filezilla a small amount even though it's open source.
- dec0dedab0de 12y ago
  It's 4 in the open source definition. http://opensource.org/osd-annotated http://opensource.org/osd-annotated
- nightcracker 12y ago
  You can protect your name even while being open source and free. This is why I use the zlib license.
basch 12y ago
Ninite has filezilla. I switched to WinSCP years ago, had less problems than filezilla. App stores have their benefits, but ninite exists now. Theres really no reason to download filezilla from sourceforge when you can from ninite. The "problem" is not everyone uses ninite. Ninite. https://ninite.com/winscp/ninite.exe https://ninite.com/winscp/ninite.exe https://ninite.com/filezilla/ninite.exe https://ninite.com/filezilla/ninite.exe https://ninite.com/filezilla-winscp/ninite.exe https://ninite.com/filezilla-winscp/ninite.exe
- RIMR 12y ago
  Fun fact: Everyone calls it "Nye-Nite", but it is pronounced as it is spelled: "Nin-Ite". https://ninite.com/help/home/pronunciation.html https://ninite.com/help/home/pronunciation.html Ninite Ninite Ninite.
  - arthurfm 12y ago
    > Everyone calls it "Nye-Nite" I have never pronounced Ninite as "Nye-Nite" or heard anyone else pronounce it that way in the UK. I'm guessing you are American?
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  - tripzilch 12y ago
    Why are these links to Ninite.com flag-killed? It's a tremendously useful program, IMO. Is there some secret danger about this tool I'm missing here? I'd post my one-click-install-all-the-useful-things Ninite link (which preselects a custom selection of software into one installer) that I use for quickly setting up clean Windows machines at the kids' technology centre I work at. But I fear it might get flagkilled too. (ah doesn't matter anyway, I'm sure the average HNer is smart enough to make their own selection, and currently looking at my selection, some of the tools seem a bit out-of-date, wouldn't pick those today anymore).
MichaelGG 12y ago
Ha! The Windows Store is a scum-ridden wasteland. The second top result for Facebook is a fake scam app, claiming to be official. There is a fake Facebook app, paid, that claims to be published by "@Microsoft Corporation". Contacting Store support results in them telling you the app " works as designed ", and if you have a problem with the fake publisher, MS suggests " leave a review ". Even Netflix had a hard time preventing fakes from being published. Over a month or two, Netflix had to contact MS several times, and MS didn't suspend or remove the publisher. They resubmitted and got listed again. Try searching for HBO, xfinity, etc. MS is not interested in fixing this problem. Probably some folks have their bonus tied to " number of apps published " and that's that. I emailed Satya and the manager of the Store, to book effect. The Store is a joke. For this particular case, if FileZilla is popular, you'll have several fake paid apps. If you're lucky there may be av official app, with no way to verify it's the right one. For most users, they'll be rolling the dice just as much as they are now. Only if FileZilla is extremely diligent would it work. Disney, for example, is a top publisher for the Store, yet all sorts of fake Disney content is on there. I called Disney about this, and after about 15 minutes they figured out "don't go there" (referring to the Store). Even top publishers have a hard time dealing with it. BBC is another case, where top "official" results aren't.
blueskin_ 12y ago
Main problem with that is it depends on if MS are still pushing metro. If it can't install proper desktop programs, it's worthless. Also, if it silently autoupdates, it's worthless.

almostdvs 12y ago

Remember your units!! http://verizonmath.blogspot.com/2006/12/verizon-doesnt-know-dollars-from-cents.html http://verizonmath.blogspot.com/2006/12/verizon-doesnt-know-...

lsaferite 12y ago

I think this is a point a lot of open source projects miss. They can, and probably should, sell the software even though it is open source. Trademark (?) protection would prevent a third party from using their name even though it was open source (at least I think so based on the whole Iceweasel event). Personally, I'd also gladly pay Filezilla a small amount even though it's open source.

dec0dedab0de 12y ago
It's 4 in the open source definition. http://opensource.org/osd-annotated http://opensource.org/osd-annotated
nightcracker 12y ago
You can protect your name even while being open source and free. This is why I use the zlib license.

basch 12y ago

Ninite has filezilla. I switched to WinSCP years ago, had less problems than filezilla. App stores have their benefits, but ninite exists now. Theres really no reason to download filezilla from sourceforge when you can from ninite. The "problem" is not everyone uses ninite. Ninite. https://ninite.com/winscp/ninite.exe https://ninite.com/winscp/ninite.exe https://ninite.com/filezilla/ninite.exe https://ninite.com/filezilla/ninite.exe https://ninite.com/filezilla-winscp/ninite.exe https://ninite.com/filezilla-winscp/ninite.exe

RIMR 12y ago
Fun fact: Everyone calls it "Nye-Nite", but it is pronounced as it is spelled: "Nin-Ite". https://ninite.com/help/home/pronunciation.html https://ninite.com/help/home/pronunciation.html Ninite Ninite Ninite.
- arthurfm 12y ago
  > Everyone calls it "Nye-Nite" I have never pronounced Ninite as "Nye-Nite" or heard anyone else pronounce it that way in the UK. I'm guessing you are American?
  - deleted 12y ago
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- tripzilch 12y ago
  Why are these links to Ninite.com flag-killed? It's a tremendously useful program, IMO. Is there some secret danger about this tool I'm missing here? I'd post my one-click-install-all-the-useful-things Ninite link (which preselects a custom selection of software into one installer) that I use for quickly setting up clean Windows machines at the kids' technology centre I work at. But I fear it might get flagkilled too. (ah doesn't matter anyway, I'm sure the average HNer is smart enough to make their own selection, and currently looking at my selection, some of the tools seem a bit out-of-date, wouldn't pick those today anymore).

MichaelGG 12y ago

Ha! The Windows Store is a scum-ridden wasteland. The second top result for Facebook is a fake scam app, claiming to be official. There is a fake Facebook app, paid, that claims to be published by "@Microsoft Corporation". Contacting Store support results in them telling you the app " works as designed ", and if you have a problem with the fake publisher, MS suggests " leave a review ". Even Netflix had a hard time preventing fakes from being published. Over a month or two, Netflix had to contact MS several times, and MS didn't suspend or remove the publisher. They resubmitted and got listed again. Try searching for HBO, xfinity, etc. MS is not interested in fixing this problem. Probably some folks have their bonus tied to " number of apps published " and that's that. I emailed Satya and the manager of the Store, to book effect. The Store is a joke. For this particular case, if FileZilla is popular, you'll have several fake paid apps. If you're lucky there may be av official app, with no way to verify it's the right one. For most users, they'll be rolling the dice just as much as they are now. Only if FileZilla is extremely diligent would it work. Disney, for example, is a top publisher for the Store, yet all sorts of fake Disney content is on there. I called Disney about this, and after about 15 minutes they figured out "don't go there" (referring to the Store). Even top publishers have a hard time dealing with it. BBC is another case, where top "official" results aren't.

blueskin_ 12y ago

Main problem with that is it depends on if MS are still pushing metro. If it can't install proper desktop programs, it's worthless. Also, if it silently autoupdates, it's worthless.