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What will SystemJS+JSPM give me over Webpack? Just curious. Webpack also supports ES6 modules (as well as CJS and AMD) when used with 6to5 transpiler, and has

What will SystemJS+JSPM give me over Webpack? Just curious. Webpack also supports ES6 modules (as well as CJS and AMD) when used with 6to5 transpiler, and has a lot of great features like splitting code into bundles, figuring out the best way to split dependencies based on module size, and asynchronously loading missing chunks.

Touche 12y ago
It runs in the browser so less boilerplate to start a project, don't have to run a build daemon for every project or wait for rebuilds to finish, etc.
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linhmtran168 12y ago
Haizz, I've just learned to use Webpack. Now comes SystemJS+JSPM. There are just too many new tools, workflows and different ways of doing things in Javascript world.
- colinramsay 12y ago
  No, because SystemJS+JSPM does nothing to invalidate your Webpack knowledge. It's still an active project that works just fine for the needs of many developers.
  - dasil003 12y ago
    This is a trite response. If it does something significantly better than it does do something to invalidate knowledge in a defacto sense, at least for the caring craftsman. Not that there's any point complaining about it either though...
- moron4hire 12y ago
  You don't have to try to learn everything. I know HR throws the kitchen sink into job listings, but it's okay to specialize in only one copy of a particular tool.
- woah 12y ago
  It's just not that hard. Try it and see if you like it.
arcatek 12y ago
In their current states, Webpack is for the production applications, JSPM for development / little ES6 apps, and SystemJS is used for Node.js. - Webpack supports much more than just ES6 (and more people work on it), so you probably want to use it for production apps. - JSPM allows you to load ES6 library by transpiling them on-the-fly, which is great for simplicity. - SystemJS works by itself in a Node environment, you don't need JSPM for it. Guy Bedford has made a great tool with JSPM.
- davedx 12y ago
  This seems so fragmented, even before you consider all the other module loaders, transpilers and toolchains. I'm a senior frontend developer and I find this side of JavaScript truly bewildering.
  - mattdesl 12y ago
    Agreed on there being too many tools. Thankfully most of them are starting to embrace the same core feature: writing npm modules. Small bits of code that you publish once to npm, and then reuse across many projects and potentially many build/workflow systems.
  - arcatek 12y ago
    The main issue is really the lack of module concept in Javascript core. I hope things get better with ES6, because at this point it will be much, much easier to write a library to load them all, without relying on "proprietary" loaders.

Touche 12y ago

It runs in the browser so less boilerplate to start a project, don't have to run a build daemon for every project or wait for rebuilds to finish, etc.

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linhmtran168 12y ago

Haizz, I've just learned to use Webpack. Now comes SystemJS+JSPM. There are just too many new tools, workflows and different ways of doing things in Javascript world.

colinramsay 12y ago
No, because SystemJS+JSPM does nothing to invalidate your Webpack knowledge. It's still an active project that works just fine for the needs of many developers.
- dasil003 12y ago
  This is a trite response. If it does something significantly better than it does do something to invalidate knowledge in a defacto sense, at least for the caring craftsman. Not that there's any point complaining about it either though...
moron4hire 12y ago
You don't have to try to learn everything. I know HR throws the kitchen sink into job listings, but it's okay to specialize in only one copy of a particular tool.
woah 12y ago
It's just not that hard. Try it and see if you like it.

arcatek 12y ago

In their current states, Webpack is for the production applications, JSPM for development / little ES6 apps, and SystemJS is used for Node.js. - Webpack supports much more than just ES6 (and more people work on it), so you probably want to use it for production apps. - JSPM allows you to load ES6 library by transpiling them on-the-fly, which is great for simplicity. - SystemJS works by itself in a Node environment, you don't need JSPM for it. Guy Bedford has made a great tool with JSPM.

davedx 12y ago
This seems so fragmented, even before you consider all the other module loaders, transpilers and toolchains. I'm a senior frontend developer and I find this side of JavaScript truly bewildering.
- mattdesl 12y ago
  Agreed on there being too many tools. Thankfully most of them are starting to embrace the same core feature: writing npm modules. Small bits of code that you publish once to npm, and then reuse across many projects and potentially many build/workflow systems.
- arcatek 12y ago
  The main issue is really the lack of module concept in Javascript core. I hope things get better with ES6, because at this point it will be much, much easier to write a library to load them all, without relying on "proprietary" loaders.