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Ford looks even worse when you see how Tesla and Toyota behave. Ford is trying to take the most hostile to customers action it can get away with under the brok

Ford looks even worse when you see how Tesla and Toyota behave. Ford is trying to take the most hostile to customers action it can get away with under the broken copyright system. Meanwhile Tesla and Toyota are giving away patent rights in order to encourage innovation and help customers. This is just a very visible example of how Ford thinks and how Tesla and Toyota think. Sadly Ford's behavior is a very common USA management practice while Tesla and Toyota are rare. It is short sighted thinking and results in many less visible bad decisions that cripple companies in the long term.

blackaspen 12y ago
Patents aren't everything though: From ToyoDIY: December 6, 2009 The diagrams are no longer available on this site per demands of Toyota Motor Sales Inc. Yes, they still have part number listings/search (which is awesome), but they did use to have more.
- kw71 12y ago
  This site has extracted the databases of the "Toyota EPC" application and put them on the internet with a web usable UI. If you want this material, one place I know you can find it is rutracker and you should simply search for "Toyota EPC." A site called 'realoem' did the same thing with BMW's database, and seems to have had no trouble for the years that it's been online.
talmand 12y ago
Toyota has had their questionable behaviors before. Tesla just hasn't been around long enough to be labeled with bad behavior yet. Which possibly may never happen, we'll have to wait and see.
kw71 12y ago
Hasn't Tesla been angry at an owner for investigating the ethernet link in his vehicle?
- jrockway 12y ago
  I investigated a little bit and it appears that the answer is yes. While this is a disastrously speculative article: http://www.dragtimes.com/blog/tesla-model-s-ethernet-network-explored-possible-jailbreak-in-the-future http://www.dragtimes.com/blog/tesla-model-s-ethernet-network... It claims they told the owner that the activity "can be related to industrial espionage and advised me to stop investigation, to not void the warranty”. Usually when people use words like "industrial espionage" and "void the warranty", there's something that they don't want you to know that they think you're about to know.
funkyy 12y ago
Welcome to business culture that is oriented on year-to-year performance bonuses, rather than longevity of product, customer satisfaction and building long term strategy.
- hnnewguy 12y ago
  >rather than longevity of product, customer satisfaction and building long term strategy You realize that the Ford Motor Company has been around for over 100 years, right? Think about that before commenting on their "short term agenda".
  - jdmichal 12y ago
    "Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results."

blackaspen 12y ago

Patents aren't everything though: From ToyoDIY: December 6, 2009 The diagrams are no longer available on this site per demands of Toyota Motor Sales Inc. Yes, they still have part number listings/search (which is awesome), but they did use to have more.

kw71 12y ago
This site has extracted the databases of the "Toyota EPC" application and put them on the internet with a web usable UI. If you want this material, one place I know you can find it is rutracker and you should simply search for "Toyota EPC." A site called 'realoem' did the same thing with BMW's database, and seems to have had no trouble for the years that it's been online.

talmand 12y ago

Toyota has had their questionable behaviors before. Tesla just hasn't been around long enough to be labeled with bad behavior yet. Which possibly may never happen, we'll have to wait and see.

kw71 12y ago

Hasn't Tesla been angry at an owner for investigating the ethernet link in his vehicle?

jrockway 12y ago
I investigated a little bit and it appears that the answer is yes. While this is a disastrously speculative article: http://www.dragtimes.com/blog/tesla-model-s-ethernet-network-explored-possible-jailbreak-in-the-future http://www.dragtimes.com/blog/tesla-model-s-ethernet-network... It claims they told the owner that the activity "can be related to industrial espionage and advised me to stop investigation, to not void the warranty”. Usually when people use words like "industrial espionage" and "void the warranty", there's something that they don't want you to know that they think you're about to know.

funkyy 12y ago

Welcome to business culture that is oriented on year-to-year performance bonuses, rather than longevity of product, customer satisfaction and building long term strategy.

hnnewguy 12y ago
>rather than longevity of product, customer satisfaction and building long term strategy You realize that the Ford Motor Company has been around for over 100 years, right? Think about that before commenting on their "short term agenda".
- jdmichal 12y ago
  "Past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results."