Just to be clear--with customer development, you don't ask customers for your vision. That's still the founders responsibility. So yes, I think @ev and @jack

Just to be clear--with customer development, you don't ask customers for your vision. That's still the founders responsibility. So yes, I think @ev and @jack would have still written code. They would have then asked people (not laggards, but people they already think might be interested) if their MVP has legs.