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I remember thinking frames were the best thing for navigation because you only needed to keep the one file updated, I didnt even know about server side includes

I remember thinking frames were the best thing for navigation because you only needed to keep the one file updated, I didnt even know about server side includes back then :) css came a few years later too.

sammcd 17y ago
I'm with you, sounds like the same order of events for me. I am still embarrassed about my heavy abuse of the php include() function.
- catch404 17y ago
  I ended up doing it my own way using external javascripts :) it's amazing how you approach things when you are completely isolated from what everyone else is doing!
pkulak 17y ago
I remember when all my sites ended with .shtml and I thought it was the coolest thing ever.
- wenbert 17y ago
  Do you also remember the days before Google? When we had to literally submit our sites to Yahoo's directory, etc.? Good old days :)
- mcav 17y ago
  I used to think that meant it was secure (like https). I think I even gave a grade-school presentation on that, but no one knew better either.
wenbert 17y ago
Oh god I loved Server Side Includes. I ran a Tiberian Sun / Red Alert 2 site a years ago and had like 30-ish pages of content. Each had it's own navigation bar. Now imagine the time it took me update if I added a page or changed the navigation. To make the long story short, I went to IRC (webmaster.com #ra2 - i think), people there introduced me to SSI. Then a few weeks later, they introduced me to Newspro (a few months/years later, it was renamed to Coranto).
- tdm911 17y ago
  Heh, I ran a Red Alert fan page back in the day too! :) It was a Geocities page and had one of those massive long URL's and may have even used an animated gif or too also!
  - catch404 17y ago
    As did I :) , I also ran a southpark site but stopped updating because I was just linking to other peoples content (with credit). Looking back I wished I added votes, called it an aggregator and gone for the win :D
rimantas 17y ago
That's nothing. I remember putting webiste into a frameset just to avoid having scrollbar in Netscape 3 \o/.

sammcd 17y ago

I'm with you, sounds like the same order of events for me. I am still embarrassed about my heavy abuse of the php include() function.

catch404 17y ago
I ended up doing it my own way using external javascripts :) it's amazing how you approach things when you are completely isolated from what everyone else is doing!

pkulak 17y ago

I remember when all my sites ended with .shtml and I thought it was the coolest thing ever.

wenbert 17y ago
Do you also remember the days before Google? When we had to literally submit our sites to Yahoo's directory, etc.? Good old days :)
mcav 17y ago
I used to think that meant it was secure (like https). I think I even gave a grade-school presentation on that, but no one knew better either.

wenbert 17y ago

Oh god I loved Server Side Includes. I ran a Tiberian Sun / Red Alert 2 site a years ago and had like 30-ish pages of content. Each had it's own navigation bar. Now imagine the time it took me update if I added a page or changed the navigation. To make the long story short, I went to IRC (webmaster.com #ra2 - i think), people there introduced me to SSI. Then a few weeks later, they introduced me to Newspro (a few months/years later, it was renamed to Coranto).

tdm911 17y ago
Heh, I ran a Red Alert fan page back in the day too! :) It was a Geocities page and had one of those massive long URL's and may have even used an animated gif or too also!
- catch404 17y ago
  As did I :) , I also ran a southpark site but stopped updating because I was just linking to other peoples content (with credit). Looking back I wished I added votes, called it an aggregator and gone for the win :D

rimantas 17y ago

That's nothing. I remember putting webiste into a frameset just to avoid having scrollbar in Netscape 3 \o/.