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The problem I've seen is that it's not just geeks this time. Sitting around a New Year's party with mostly non-geeks, everyone was discussing how they were hesi

by maguay 12y ago

The problem I've seen is that it's not just geeks this time. Sitting around a New Year's party with mostly non-geeks, everyone was discussing how they were hesitant to install new versions of iOS now thanks to bugs et al (both existent ones and media trumped-up stuff). That's both a direct and a perception problem that Apple has got to fix, stat. The only good thing for Apple is, the same discussions included frustrations over both Android and Windows 8. Maybe the thing is that now, everyone's an early-adopter geek.

rtpg 12y ago
Thing is nobody complains about Android updates breaking everything (though there are a lot of complaints about updates not happening), because the upgrades are usually well tested (despite having many more hardware platforms). Win8 there was Metro, but I really didn't hear much about Windows being broken. iOS and OS X have stability issues, ones that other systems seem to deal with more gracefully now.
- CamperBob2 12y ago
  How many Android users ever get updates, though? Win8 there was Metro, but I really didn't hear much about Windows being broken. Huh? People screamed bloody murder about Metro. Arguably, it played a large part in the downfall of Steve Ballmer.
  - danieldk 12y ago
    How many Android users ever get updates, though? All the time, a lot of functionality is updated through Google Play services, and many of the apps are updated outside the OS. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/12/android-2-3-gingerbread-four-years-later-the-os-just-wont-die/ http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/12/android-2-3-gingerbre...
- hokkos 12y ago
  No complains about android ? Lollipop is the worst Android update ever, there is a bug where the system process take up RAM until the phone can barely use one app without killing the last one and slow everything. https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729 https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729
- maguay 12y ago
  Good point, one that's solved in part by the general lack of Android updates on so many devices. Android devices (and sorry, I'm generalizing again based on what I see people around me say/do) are seen as a widget; buy this for exactly what it offers today and nothing more. iOS devices are, on the other hand, seen as future-proofed; buy this today and get everything new that's coming out over the next few years.

by maguay 12y ago

rtpg 12y ago

Thing is nobody complains about Android updates breaking everything (though there are a lot of complaints about updates not happening), because the upgrades are usually well tested (despite having many more hardware platforms). Win8 there was Metro, but I really didn't hear much about Windows being broken. iOS and OS X have stability issues, ones that other systems seem to deal with more gracefully now.

CamperBob2 12y ago
How many Android users ever get updates, though? Win8 there was Metro, but I really didn't hear much about Windows being broken. Huh? People screamed bloody murder about Metro. Arguably, it played a large part in the downfall of Steve Ballmer.
- danieldk 12y ago
  How many Android users ever get updates, though? All the time, a lot of functionality is updated through Google Play services, and many of the apps are updated outside the OS. http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/12/android-2-3-gingerbread-four-years-later-the-os-just-wont-die/ http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/12/android-2-3-gingerbre...
hokkos 12y ago
No complains about android ? Lollipop is the worst Android update ever, there is a bug where the system process take up RAM until the phone can barely use one app without killing the last one and slow everything. https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729 https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=79729
maguay 12y ago
Good point, one that's solved in part by the general lack of Android updates on so many devices. Android devices (and sorry, I'm generalizing again based on what I see people around me say/do) are seen as a widget; buy this for exactly what it offers today and nothing more. iOS devices are, on the other hand, seen as future-proofed; buy this today and get everything new that's coming out over the next few years.