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How is Korean culture liberal? Maybe you mean consumerist?

by dkarapetyan 12y ago

fixedd 12y ago
kiba said "in a liberal society" not "about a liberal society".
- vacri 12y ago
  The intention was 'about', because we read about stuff like this all the time in places like North Korea; it's hardly weird at all.
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anigbrowl 12y ago
It's South Korea, not North Korea.
- renekooi 12y ago
  South Korea doesn't quite fit the "liberal" label either. It's a technologically advanced country, but a socially conservative one.
  - hackerboos 12y ago
    Hierarchy similar to Japan although as you say, more socially and economically conservative. Korea is a young democracy though - it's only had free and fair elections since 1987. Pretty much under military rule and dictatorships since 1945.
    - kiba 12y ago
      Liberalism in this case refer to a cluster of ideas that usually made up a democratic society like South Korea. Freedom of speech, free and fair elections, the freedom of religion, and all the traditions that make democracies workable. It does not refer to how "conservative" or "liberal" you are.
      - hackerboos 12y ago
        Actually the OP refers to Korean culture. Not the state. Korea lacks 'freedom of speech' and 'free and fair elections' whilst the National Security Act is still on the law books. It's not right therefore to refer to Korea as liberal democracy. It isn't.
- nl 12y ago
  South Korea is a socially conservative democracy. They are somewhat consumerist in that they consumer oriented, although not to the extent of the US. Consumerist is not the same as communist - in fact it is almost the opposite. North Korea used to be a communist country, but now is follows the philosophy of juche[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche
  - nl 12y ago
    Err.. thanks for the downvotes? An explanation would be useful? The GP said: Maybe you mean consumerist? The parent comment said: It's South Korea, not North Korea. They are plainly mistaking "consumerist" for "communist" - perhaps by misreading, perhaps not. North Korea is the "communist" half of Korea. I quote communist because their political system meets no possible definition of communism I know of, and they themselves claim to have outgrown it: "Kimilsungism is an original idea that cannot be explained within the frameworks of Marxism–Leninism. The ideas of Juche which constitutes the quintessence of Kimilsungism is an idea newly discovered in the history of mankind." Kim Jong-il went further, stating that Marxism–Leninism had become obsolete and needed to be replaced by Kimilsungism;[1]. They do argue that Juche is a type of socialism, which I guess could be construed as true by stretching the definition of socialism and ignoring the reality of how North Korea is run. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche#Kimilsungism.E2.80.93Kimjongilism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche#Kimilsungism.E2.80.93Kim...

How is Korean culture liberal? Maybe you mean consumerist?

fixedd 12y ago

kiba said "in a liberal society" not "about a liberal society".

vacri 12y ago
The intention was 'about', because we read about stuff like this all the time in places like North Korea; it's hardly weird at all.

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anigbrowl 12y ago

It's South Korea, not North Korea.

renekooi 12y ago
South Korea doesn't quite fit the "liberal" label either. It's a technologically advanced country, but a socially conservative one.
- hackerboos 12y ago
  Hierarchy similar to Japan although as you say, more socially and economically conservative. Korea is a young democracy though - it's only had free and fair elections since 1987. Pretty much under military rule and dictatorships since 1945.
  - kiba 12y ago
    Liberalism in this case refer to a cluster of ideas that usually made up a democratic society like South Korea. Freedom of speech, free and fair elections, the freedom of religion, and all the traditions that make democracies workable. It does not refer to how "conservative" or "liberal" you are.
    - hackerboos 12y ago
      Actually the OP refers to Korean culture. Not the state. Korea lacks 'freedom of speech' and 'free and fair elections' whilst the National Security Act is still on the law books. It's not right therefore to refer to Korea as liberal democracy. It isn't.
nl 12y ago
South Korea is a socially conservative democracy. They are somewhat consumerist in that they consumer oriented, although not to the extent of the US. Consumerist is not the same as communist - in fact it is almost the opposite. North Korea used to be a communist country, but now is follows the philosophy of juche[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche
- nl 12y ago
  Err.. thanks for the downvotes? An explanation would be useful? The GP said: Maybe you mean consumerist? The parent comment said: It's South Korea, not North Korea. They are plainly mistaking "consumerist" for "communist" - perhaps by misreading, perhaps not. North Korea is the "communist" half of Korea. I quote communist because their political system meets no possible definition of communism I know of, and they themselves claim to have outgrown it: "Kimilsungism is an original idea that cannot be explained within the frameworks of Marxism–Leninism. The ideas of Juche which constitutes the quintessence of Kimilsungism is an idea newly discovered in the history of mankind." Kim Jong-il went further, stating that Marxism–Leninism had become obsolete and needed to be replaced by Kimilsungism;[1]. They do argue that Juche is a type of socialism, which I guess could be construed as true by stretching the definition of socialism and ignoring the reality of how North Korea is run. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche#Kimilsungism.E2.80.93Kimjongilism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juche#Kimilsungism.E2.80.93Kim...